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BroncoBrian

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584 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: dewalt dw744 table saw jet saw stop

Any of you guys willing to talk me out of a DW744 portable? If I spent a few hundred more $ what are the suggestions…? I do not want to get a Grizzly or Jet that is basically the same function minus portable for $7-800 unless there is something more to it.

What is the best value to get a belt?

-- Stop thinking, let things happen... and be the ball.


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knotscott

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#1 posted 584 days ago

The biggest advantage of a portable is portability. If you don’t need to sling the saw from jobsite to jobsite, the mechanical, user, and performance advantages swing heavily in favor of a full size belt drive stationary saw.

Starter saws in the full size class include the Ridgid R4512, Craftsman 21833, Porter Cable PCB270TS, Steel City 35990SS, then move up to the Craftsman 22116, Grizzly G0715P, G0661, Steel City 35990C, Rikon 10-201, Jet Proshop, Steel City 35950, General International 50-200R, etc. Setup and blade selection will heavily influence final performance on any of them, but they all have similar potential…..large operating area, good stability, good torque and power, good accuracy, smooth operation, etc.

Making sense of table saw classifications.

The best bang for the buck is probably the R4512 from HD using a 20% HF coupon. The Sears 21833 is essentially the same saw.

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NiteWalker

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#2 posted 584 days ago

My money would go on one of the steel city models.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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Tedstor

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#3 posted 584 days ago

The ONLY advantages of a jobsite saw is portability and storage. A full-sized contractor or cabinet saw is better than a jobsite saw in every other meaningful way. Comparing a full-sized Grizzly to a Dewalt 744 is like comparing a sedan to a pick-up truck. Yes, both will provide “basically the same function”, but their purposes and capabilities are vastly different.
If you have the room for a full-sized saw, and don’t need to lug it from place to place, I can’t imagine any reason you’d want a jobsite saw.
Assumming you’re looking at new machines, the 744 is around $500. For that money, you could get the Ridgid or Craftsman that were already mentioned. You could also get a VERY nice used saw for even less.

Don’t get me wrong, the 744 has a great reputation which I’m sure is well deserved. But if portability/storage are not a primary concern, I think you should seriously consider other options.

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slopjock78

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#4 posted 584 days ago

I have both the Dewalt 744 as well as a Ridgid 3650. I got the 744 new when i was first building up my shop. I used it both in my shop as well as on the job. it is an exceptional jobsite saw and does everything i need it to do on the job. It is very smooth for a direct drive saw and is very stable with the folding/rolling stand that i got with it. a very nice saw for what its intended to do.

However, when i used it in my shop for actual woodworking, it became very flawed. For one, it just does not have the power to rip anything very well that is over 3/4”. its table is very small when you start ripping any sheet goods. It has a very nice fence for a jobsite saw, however it is not nearly as nice as what you get on a good contractor and above saw. its also quite loud.

so really it depends on what you need it for. if you want the portability of a jobsite saw, you cant do a whole lot better then the 744. However, if the portability is not needed, for the same money you can get the ridgid R4512 that has exceptionally good reviews on here for its price point. Or you can typically get a nice used 3650 for around $300

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BroncoBrian

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#5 posted 584 days ago

I have had a Dewalt table saw in the past (don’t remember the model but is was the biggest $1000 unit). Love it and it had a belt. I guess my expectation would be similar quality or better so great comments. Thanks Slopjock78, that is the kind of info I have been looking for.

KnottScott- thanks for the model suggestions. I am not familiar with Steel City. I have always been a Home Depot guy although not a Rigid fan. That is only because I’ve had employees with Rigid drills and they always wanted my DW or Makita instead. The R4512 does seem to be a great value. Very good value.

The Steel City 35950 looks impressive but I need to be ale to move this around more easily.

Grizzly G0715P seems to be a steel (npi). I would need to run 220v which I do have access to. Still very heavy!

I will not move a saw from the garage but will need to be able to roll it into place.

-- Stop thinking, let things happen... and be the ball.

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NiteWalker

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#6 posted 584 days ago

More easily? The 35950 comes with a built in mobile base. I’m not sure how much easier it can get to move…

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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knotscott

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#7 posted 584 days ago

”I have had a Dewalt table saw in the past (don’t remember the model but is was the biggest $1000 unit)”

Likely a DW746 hybrid saw, unless it was really old.

Any of the saws mentioned should roll easily around the shop on a mobile base….some actually have built in wheels. If you have 220v, or are going to install it, at some point it seems logical to ponder the significant upgrade step to a 3hp cabinet saw like the Grizzly G1023RL (< $1400 delivered).

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BroncoBrian

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#8 posted 584 days ago

I am leaning that way knotscott. That is exactly the saw I have along with the large extension table to the right. I think i had a 52” rip ability. It was pretty good. I am looking at the 220v install. I think that keeps me from being limited and allows me to use the dedicated 20 amp for other tools and an air system without a trip to the breaker box every few minutes. That Grizz looks like a great option. Might check out a Steel City this week to see about the build quality.

-- Stop thinking, let things happen... and be the ball.

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BroncoBrian

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#9 posted 582 days ago

knotscott – narrowing down to a G0715P or Jet ProShop. You have any idea if the Griz units are in good standing now? I assume they fixed their alignment issues, seems to be some mixed reviews but I also assume the guys spending a few thousand know a little more about aligning tools than guys who are stretching to $800-$900. I just dont want a heavier or larger unit around for what I expect to do. G0661 looks similar, dont really understand why they have a model overlap at that price range. Both have similar features and cast iron tops. Is the fence that much better on G0715P?

Looks like jet is $350-$450 more to get the cast iron wings and less power. Hmmm….

I put less thought into buying a house….

BD

-- Stop thinking, let things happen... and be the ball.

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BroncoBrian

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#10 posted 582 days ago

any help on above?

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toolie

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#11 posted 581 days ago

skip the jet. long on promise and short on delivery. the 715 and the 4512 are the same saw under the hood. cost differential accounts for the griz’s CI wings, better fence and larger motor, but no integrated mobile base like the ridgid. BTW, HD sells steel city tools online. when SC had their sale last year (ended 12/31/12), HD was honoring the sale prices and providing free shipping to the buyer and deferred billing (like all their large purchases).

BTW, whatever happened to the dewalt hybrid?

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gfadvm

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#12 posted 581 days ago

I have the Grizz 715P and love it. I do a lot of very precise joinery on it with no problems. I’m not good but I may be lucky! I set mine up according to the directions in the manual and didn’t have to do much more “tweaking” at all. Your milage may vary.

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BroncoBrian

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#13 posted 581 days ago

Toolie – I sold the Dewalt Hybrid when I moved from Houston to Colorado. Wish I had not now but I did not think i would use it and it seemed like a beast to move with the full extension table. I did sell it for a decent price (~$600) but it was also like new so the guy got a great tool.

Thanks for the replies. So I am ruling out Jet because of the price/value. I like the line and will likely get some other Jet stuff, but the Saw Stop has an obvious advantage and the guys I have spoken to really like it. So I am down to SawStop or Grizz G0715P.

I really want to build some fun small projects and a great exotic fly tying bench, but i will need fingers for tying and fishing….. tough to not lean that way. Any last nudge?

Does everyone agree we spend WAY TOO MUCH TIME on deciding this stuff. Seriously decided on a house nearly $500K in less time than this!

BD

-- Stop thinking, let things happen... and be the ball.

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runswithscissors

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#14 posted 579 days ago

Yeah, we do tend to overthink things around here.

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knotscott

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#15 posted 579 days ago

”Does everyone agree we spend WAY TOO MUCH TIME on deciding this stuff.”

Maybe….but if you do it right, it can be a one time decision. Reinventing the wheel takes even longer!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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