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Weekend_Carpenter

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01-14-2013 09:32 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question bandsaw grizzly rikon

Hi All,
I have read reviews and opinions and am not sure in my buying decision. I have narrowed my decision down to a Grizzly G0513X2 vs Rikon 10-325. I know the Rikon is a 14” and not a 17”, but it has a 13” re-saw capacity. I thought about the Rikon 18” model, but it is 220v only and I don’t have that currently in my garage. Part of me thinks that whichever of these two I get, I will be happy either way.

I am not a professional woodworker, but I have built cabinets and a hope chest with rough cut lumber. I want something that I can do curve cuts with and resaw with.

Here are my thoughts on both from my research. Please chime in your thoughts, as well as suggestions of other models I haven’t considered. Also if you know of a better deal, or way to get a discount, I am all ears.

I guess what I am looking for is, is the grizzly worth the extra money, and if I have an issue with the band saw, am I going to be taken care of? I know this probably sounds scatter-brained, but thats how I feel after reading all this info. I appreciate the time you take to read and respond. Thanks in advance!

——————-Rikon 10-325 (Was just on sale for $807 + tax at my local woodcraft – from what I understand they go on sale frequently)

——————-Pros
-I can pick it up at my local woodcraft store, and return if I have issues.

-For a 14” bandsaw it has a large 13” re-saw capacity
-Seem to have great customer service (one review a guy emailed all of the tech support departments before buying, and Rikon was the only one to email back)

-A majority of reviewers love their Rikon, but none seem to have experience with Grizzly.

-5 Year Warranty

-Micro adjustment for the table to get everything squared up

—————-Cons

-1.5HP motor (which I understand people say when running 110v, that is all you will see anyway)
-reviewers have said that the blade tracks/wobbles quite a bit on this model, front to back, and even side to side, usually from a out of round top wheel

-reviewers have said that the tensioner guide is inaccurate, and hard to see in its position

—————-Grizzly G0513X2 ($1095 +$99 Shipping +$35 Lift Gate service, no tax. Possibly get a coupon from Grizzly catalog and or woodworker magazine for 5-10% off, or possibly free shipping, or wait till they have a spring sale)

————-Pros
~17” capacity, 12” resaw capacity
-2 HP motor
-Double Ball bearing guides
-Cast iron Wheels
-Cast iron Trunnions
-Dual Dust Collection Ports
-Seems like once people get a functioning unit they are extremely great
- Out of three professional reviews, 2 of them when comparing directly to the rikon, said go with Grizzly because of the 2HP motor, and the resaw fence.

———-Cons
-I have read Mixed reviews on Grizzly’s customer service- Great, and OMG I can’t believe that happened – The great seems like the past years, and the bad ones more recent

-I have read a lot of reviewers say that their product arrived broken in good packaging

-Some reviewers have said that the cast iron table is flimsy (that you can see it warp in and out by taking the pin out for a blade swap)

-1 year warranty


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Straightbowed

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#1 posted 01-14-2013 12:37 PM

GRIZZLY

-- Stevo, work in tha city woodshop in the country

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tsdahc

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#2 posted 01-14-2013 01:53 PM

I have a rikon and was torn between the grizzzly and the rikon. What sold it for me was the sale that woodcraft had (Ive owned it for a year now). With a year under my belt I would say that the Rikon is a decent machine. I switched out the guides for carter guides for ease of use (no tools required).

I have found that running on 110 the motor is more than sufficient.

The largest resaw I did was on 12 in figured walnut, about 3 inches thick sliced into 3 seperate sections. When I measured the thicknes on my digital caliber the difference in thicknes was 1/64, which was quickly solved with my planer. I also attribute this to lack of practice resawing a piece that larger.

The tension guide is indeed a joke, I dont use it, heck I ended up bending the needle portion so it just sit there un attatched. Its reaaly not rocket science to figure out your tension, that and every blade is different.

My wheels were not out of round and they were cast iron, as well as the trunion.

Things I didnt like, instructions are ok, could be a little better.
The cabinet is hard to assemble if you dont have little hands.
The miter slots were not machined well, they are straight just not as nice of a finish as the rest of the cast iron top.
The final issue I had with mine was some paint that was missing on the frame. I contacted woodcraft and they would not give me any money off and they also did not have anymore in stock so I had to go to rikon. They said they would send me a new one if I wanted but really that is a hassle of disassembling packaging and shiping it back all over a little area of missing paint. It is good to know that they would have sent me an entire new saw over it but really not worth 6 hours of my life.

In conclusion I dont think you could go wrong with either saw, I like my rikon, I use it alot for dimensioning rough stock and am happy in my purchase. If I had to do it over again I would probably still get the rikoin, as long as its on sale.

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woodman88

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#3 posted 01-14-2013 02:15 PM

I Too have the Rikon and love it But do agree the tensioning guide has alot to be desired. If you do alot of resawing try the 1/2 Woodslicer blade from highland woodworking

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Surfside

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#4 posted 01-14-2013 03:35 PM

I don’t have experience with either. But I think I should consider getting Rikon.
Goodluck buddy.

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#5 posted 01-14-2013 04:16 PM

I have the Grizzly and love it. I bought the one with the foot break (G0513X2BF) and don’t think the foot break is worth the extra cost. It is not where I could hit it quickly if thing started going wrong during a cut.

My Grizzly did not come with a power cord, just instructions on how to wire one.

As far as power to resaw is concerned, it has plenty. I will run 1 to 2 inches per second with any kind of wood.

Hope this helps.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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#6 posted 01-14-2013 04:43 PM

reviewers have said that the blade tracks/wobbles quite a bit on this model, front to back, and even side to side, usually from a out of round top wheel

like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrxBP8YBKYM

if yes, it’s a defective blade/blade welds, not a defective wheel.

i have a rikon 10-340 which replaced a POS jet 18” BS. the rikon is far more substantial so it gets my nod as i’ve not seen any comments across six WW forums from anyone complaining about the performance of a 10-325. one guy in the phillipines griped about the service associated with having it delivered to him, but no quibbles about the product itself.

and you’re right. either one should provide the desired service. adn the larger the wheel, the less stress is placed on the blade, so 17” wheel saw blades should be less likely to break than 14” wheel blades, at least that’s what lou iturra says.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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HorizontalMike

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#7 posted 01-14-2013 05:12 PM

I have to ask why you are comparing a Rikon 14in BS against a Grizzly 17in? I don’t get it. BOTH companies have equal sized BS, so I would suggest comparing a Rikon 18in VS the Grizzly 17in… OR compare the Rikon 14in VS the Grizzly 14in ????

BTW, I have a Rikon 14in BS #10-325

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Straightbowed

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#8 posted 01-15-2013 02:15 AM

you wont really use that extra inch on the rikon and the grizzly is a much heavier saw better motro bigger table just sayin

-- Stevo, work in tha city woodshop in the country

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Straightbowed

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#9 posted 01-15-2013 02:32 AM

to me this is a no BRAINER

-- Stevo, work in tha city woodshop in the country

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Straightbowed

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#10 posted 01-15-2013 02:35 AM

if you compare the Rikon 10-345 to the same price grizzly G514X2B there is no comparison 514 is a monster

-- Stevo, work in tha city woodshop in the country

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Alongiron

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#11 posted 01-15-2013 02:38 AM

I vote for the Grizzly as well…

-- Measure twice and cut once.....Steve Lien

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#12 posted 01-15-2013 02:39 AM

but now I have the 10-345 and I love it it saws great with the right guides I think they all saw good so now are you good and confused everybody has a opinion I bought this saw because I had to wait 3 months on a 514X2B and Im not sorry at all about the 10-345 I wanted something with size to do resaw and with the right guides and blades finess

-- Stevo, work in tha city woodshop in the country

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Straightbowed

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#13 posted 01-15-2013 02:47 AM

the thing about Rikon you can go to Woodcraft and pick up a display and not pay shipping if you have a way to unload it I have a tractor with loader so it don’t affect me on buying equip unless it weighs over 3500 lbs and Im not that big a tool junkie almost though

-- Stevo, work in tha city woodshop in the country

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#14 posted 01-15-2013 02:58 AM

I have the Rikon, and have been happy. The saw can resaw 13” on 110 power. Since that is the case, not sure what benefit the 2hp really is. Grizzly seems to offer great bang for the buck, but having read so much about their tools, there is little doubt that at the least, they have questionable QC. If you get a “good one” you are golden. If you don’t, there will be hassles and delays. Maybe something to consider.

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Sandra

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#15 posted 01-15-2013 03:02 AM

I’ll be watching this thread, as I’m in the market for a BS also. Seriously leaning toward the Rikon.

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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