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nwbusa

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558 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: sliding dovetails sliding dovetail

I’m building a small set of shelves and am using sliding dovetails for the first time. Just curious if it’s customary/necessary to glue the joints. They will be a tight fit without glue and I’m not sure how effectively I’d be able to glue them anyway. I was thinking of pinning them with a small dowel at one end to allow for wood movement.

Any voices of experience here will be appreciated.

-- John, BC, Canada


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Rick M.

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#1 posted 558 days ago

You have the right idea, pin or glue at one end only.

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#2 posted 558 days ago

Slide 3/4 of the way home, then apply glue to the remaing 1/4 of the tail. Then tap it with a rubber mallet to fully seat it.
If you sand the buried part of the tail, it will assemble easier.

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#3 posted 558 days ago

if possible, pin with dowel in middle, that way the wood can move in either direction

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#4 posted 558 days ago

What Willie said.

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#5 posted 558 days ago

Watched Garrett Hack build a small tool cabinet on video over at Finewoodworking.com and he pretty much did what Willie said.

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nwbusa

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#6 posted 558 days ago

Thanks guys for the responses. Going to assemble today, will post pics when completed.

-- John, BC, Canada

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nwbusa

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#7 posted 557 days ago

Here’s the result. I didn’t use any glue in the DTs as they were a very tight fit, but I did pin them with a small dowel (which is glued in).

-- John, BC, Canada

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SCOTSMAN

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#8 posted 557 days ago

Smashing now you can dissasemble when moving them if needed love those shelves. Alistair

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MonteCristo

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#9 posted 557 days ago

Looks great ! My only quibble would be that the pin should be quite close to the front so that all the movement is all backwards and the fronts stay flush. I tried this joint on an old growth Douglas Fir bookcase. I found the edge grain fir didn’t exactly slide easily, making for a fairly hair-raising assembly !

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#10 posted 557 days ago

I made a bookshelf with sliding dovetails without glue ( http://lumberjocks.com/projects/13162 ) It is solid and I had no problems with it.

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#11 posted 556 days ago

Beautiful work!

Really COOL!

Thank you.

I really don’t think they ‘needed’ glue…

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