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563 days ago

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Do you recommend to buy or to build a shop air cleaner?
Which one would be more economical?
I tend to prefer to build it just for the fun of it.
I know that many LJers choose to build their own, I would like to hear from them.
I know that other LJers choose the buy theirs, I also would like to hear from them.
If I build one, can I make it as effective as a commercial one?
What filters to use for maximum “air cleaning”?
Are 3M Filtrete good enough?
Do I need to use HEPA filters?
Should I use a 3 speed attic fan or something else?
My shop is 24×30x10= 7200 cubic feet, how scfm do I need?
I know that someone else asked the question last week but I could not find the answer: where can I find the switch and time dealt for the fan motor which allows me to select the three speed and to let the fan run after I live the shop?
Should I suck or exhaust the air through the filters?
A short while ago someone posted about electrostatic filters (precipitators) for a wood shop, what was the conclusion of the conversation? I remember that a LJ was concern about the dust causing shorts in the filter and staring a fire. Is this a real concern?

Thank you for reading and for your answers.
I truly appreciate your help.
Have a blessed day.
Bertrand

-- Bert


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History

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#1 posted 563 days ago

I bought one, and I built one. They both work well.

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b2rtch

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#2 posted 563 days ago

SawSucker,
So what is the best solution?
To know hat you have two air cleaners is nice bu tit does not really help me.

-- Bert

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jap

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#3 posted 563 days ago

I plan on doing this http://woodgears.ca/dust/air_cleaner.html because i can’t afford a commercial one, and i have an extra house fan.

-- Joel

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Jim Finn

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#4 posted 563 days ago

I paid $175 for mine from Grizzly. I think they are now about $200. It works well for me. It has a washable pre- filter and a washable bag filter. If you can find a source for a bag filter and a free fan it might pay to build one. I would not worry about multi speeds. Most likely you will run it on one speed all the time anyway. A squirrel cage type fan is best. Propeller fans do not work as well for this purpose. Mine has no time delay either, just an on/off switch. I have a 22’x13’ shop and my 550 cfm unit cleans the air quickly. You will want to filter the air before it hits the fan so have the filters upstream of the fan. Mine hangs from the ceiling so that it does not take up any shop floor space.

-- In God We Trust

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#5 posted 563 days ago

Most filtration systems suck the air through the filters.

I plan to build my one. I have a friend that works in HVAC and asked him to find me a “blower” out of a furnace they are replacing. I will use a 1” pleated filter from a home center and then a MERV 13 if not 15 filter that I can order. I plan to leave enough space to add another 1” filter between the existing two. Plywood construction with aluminum angle to reinforce the joints. It will hang from the ceiling. I don’t really see the use / need for multiple speeds, but since the fan will support them and I have plenty of used rotary switches that I have taken out of electronic equipment I will wire one in. If you do this make sure that the switch is rated at the voltage (120V) and maximum current draw. I don’t have a delay off timer in stock, I can always add one later. If the home centers don’t have any look for a electronics part supplier in your area and see what they have.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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#6 posted 563 days ago

Jim thank you for your reply,
How do you reach the filters to clean them ?
I am thinking on installing mine a system of rope and pulleys so that I can lower it to clean the filters.

-- Bert

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b2rtch

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#7 posted 563 days ago

jap, do you understand that this fan you want to build did not really work.

-- Bert

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#8 posted 563 days ago

Sawsucker would tell you, but it”s too much work, and you’re not worth his time. Maybe if you slipped him a $20….....

I bought the Rockler air cleaner and am pretty pleased with it. I had to do a little work on it to get the filter to seal properly, but it wasn’t a big deal. The remote control is a nice feature as well.

-- Artisan Woodworks of Texas.... www.awwtx.com

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becikeja

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#9 posted 563 days ago

I have one of the JET air filters works great. I have never used on anything except high speed, so I agree if you build one skip the multi-speed. The timing feature I do use every time. I always leave it on about 30 minutes after I leave the shop and it shuts off automatically. A time delay relay is easy to wire in if you build you’re own.

-- Don't outsmart your common sense

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JesseTutt

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#10 posted 563 days ago

b2rtch says “How do you reach the filters to clean them ?”

I plan to use a ladder I store in the shop. I figure to replace the outside filter monthly hoping that it will catch most of the large particles and save the more expensive filter for the small particles.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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toolie

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#11 posted 563 days ago

for the more economically minded woodworkers, there are solutions like this that are cheap and almost as effective as much pricier air filters, at least according to wood magazine.

and the controlling switched outlet before:

controlling switched outlet after air filter install:

one day, i’ll change that 1 hour timer to this, but right now, i’m too cheap!:

http://www.homedepot.com/Electrical-Dimmers-Switches-Outlets-Timers/h_d1/N-5yc1vZc334/R-202788262/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051#.UPGDwx1_uSo

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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SamuraiSaw

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#12 posted 563 days ago

I clean my outer filter at least every 2 weeks, but I’m in my shop every day. I bought 2 washable filters and rotate them. My filter is about 8’ off the floor, so a short stepladder is all I need to get to the filter.

-- Artisan Woodworks of Texas.... www.awwtx.com

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Fred Hargis

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#13 posted 563 days ago

I built mine, couldn’t be easier. I used a reclaimed blower from a furnace we had replaced at work, put it in the center of a plywood cabinet sized to fit the filters I used. The front (discharge) side had a cheap fiberglass filter just to cover the opening. I used 20X25 furnace filter, 3 of them. The first was a cheap pleated filter, the second one a Filtrete red, the third one a Filtrete Ultra-Allergen. Having them stacked that way not only did a good job filtering, but made the most expensive ones last longer. The cabinet had a sliding door on the bottom, so I would slide it over and the filters would come out for replacement. I’d post a pic, but I left it in the shop I had when we moved. But for about $20 for the everything bit the filters, it worked very well. The blower I used was a 240V 4 speed, but I only used the 2 lower speeds. It would completely clean the shop air in about 90 minutes. The biggest use it had was getting the dust out for me to start finishing something.

-- I long for the days when Coke was a cola, and a joint was a bad place to be (Merle Haggard)

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Box

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#14 posted 563 days ago

I bought a jet air cleaner several years ago and uang it in my shop ceiling of 10’. Easy to change with a ladder.
I also built 3 boxes that use fan cage blowers that are wall mounted in my sanding room. If you build your own be sure to make a large enough panel that can accomodate replacing the blower if necessary. Most of the time they are used units from someones upgreade or repair so no telling the life expectancy.
I also just recently bought a second Jet unit on Craigslist for $150 so I am about as maxed out on air cleaners…but you can never have air that is too clean.

A friend was able to get me 10 blower units so I have 7 spares. If you decide to build your own be sure to use 3 filters. At first I bought several of the washable electrostatic filters and disccovered thsy are not very efficient as the pleated paper units…

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bondogaposis

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#15 posted 563 days ago

I bought a Delta air cleaner and use filters from Wynn Environmental. I works great. I was thinking about building one at the time, but decided my time was better spent building other things and just got the Delta on sale from Amazon. I also like the fact that it hangs from the ceiling and doesn’t take up any precious floor space. The remote control and timer is great feature.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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