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Forum topic by Cole Tallerman posted 01-09-2013 04:11 AM 1525 views 1 time favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Cole Tallerman

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01-09-2013 04:11 AM

So I was looking at jet’s cheesy videos about the vortex cone technology and it gave me a great idea. I have a HF dust collector and I saw in the videos that the vortex cone is pretty much the same DC so why cant I just add it to my dust collector. The technology looks pretty promising so I just put in my order for the cone and the mounting bracket.

Here is a link to the parts: https://parts.jettools.com/SearchResults.aspx?s=DC1100-47

Let me know what you think!


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TheDane

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#1 posted 01-09-2013 04:14 AM

There have been many LJ’s who have installed a Wok to do essentially the same thing.

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Cole Tallerman

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#2 posted 01-09-2013 04:19 AM

^thats a great idea buy I dont think my mom would give hers up

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Dusty56

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#3 posted 01-09-2013 04:40 AM

No pictures of what you might be getting at your link. $37.68 plus taxes and shipping.
I checked another site and they claim these parts are discontinued. Strange.

-- I'm absolutely positive that I couldn't be more uncertain!

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gtbuzz

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#4 posted 01-09-2013 04:46 AM

The Jet Vortex cone is an internal baffle that Jet put into the drum section of some of their newer DC’s. I guess it’s an alternative to a Thien separator.

I put a Thien baffle into the drum section of my DC1100 before I cannibalized the motor to power a cyclone separator. I don’t think it worked as well as having a preseparator, but it was better than nothing.

If you’ve go the right diameter drum section, this does seem like an easy and quick upgrade, especially if you’re short on space. Nice find!

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John

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#5 posted 01-09-2013 07:01 AM

I installed a disc of 1/4” hardboard in my DC in a similar configuration as the vortex cone, which is pretty much the same thing as a Thien style baffle. It made the tornado in the lower bag stop, which I think is the only function. It keeps the dust from recirculating into the upper section. Cost me about a dollar for the hardboard scrap, three short dowel lengths, and some screws.

It would also be pretty easy to make a cone shape from a piece of sheet metal – it’s just a circle with a little wedge cut out.

For some reason, Jet’s implementation smells like an overpriced gimmick, and I’m reluctant to reward that kind of thing. I could be wrong. Maybe they spent a lot of time and effort engineering it. Maybe it’s just the overhyped infomercial video they made about it that put me off.

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toolie

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#6 posted 01-09-2013 02:28 PM

what’s significant about that link is that, when jet first introduced the cone, they reportedly refused to sell the parts separately for a reasonable price. a poster on sawmillcreek noted they wanted almost the price of a new collector for the cone pieces. might jet be reacting to adverse customer sentiments over their attempt to coerce users into purchasing new dust collectors?

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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HorizontalMike

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#7 posted 01-09-2013 02:40 PM

I’ll take my cheesy build of a top-hat Thien on a 30gal can, ANYTIME. Mine looked really rough, but has performed so well over the past 3-years that I could not have built a better one, other than for looks.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Jimbo4

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#8 posted 01-09-2013 05:05 PM

Exactly HM. My cheesy 30 gal thingee works just like it’s supposed to ! You sure we didn’t collaborate on “our” design ?

-- *Arachnoleptic Fit*: The frantic dance performed just after you've accidently walked through a spider web.

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realpdm

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#9 posted 10-05-2014 03:12 AM

Thanks for linking to the parts. I went to their website before I found this post (like minutes before) and with no combination of searching could I find these parts. I ordered them because for $30 or so it is worth it vs my time looking for proper sized wok. I don’t really have room for pre-separator Thien baffle setup right now so this is awesome. Thank you!

-- -pdm

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Bill7255

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#10 posted 10-05-2014 09:50 AM

I was able to buy the cone when it was first came out before they stopped selling it. It helps, but I have a Thien baffel in front of it so I can’t really say how effective it is because it is seeing the debris the Thien doesn’t catch. The Thien baffel works very well.
I am sure you are aware the original bags on the older DC1100’s are 30 micron. I upgraded to the Wynn filters on mine.

-- Bill R

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timbertailor

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#11 posted 10-05-2014 07:24 PM

I watched a video on You Tube of a gentleman who had installed the wok on his system.

He complained that it really reduced the flow of his system and took it back out.

-- Brad, Texas, https://www.youtube.com/user/tonkatoytruck/feed

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timbertailor

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#12 posted 10-05-2014 07:28 PM


I ll take my cheesy build of a top-hat Thien on a 30gal can, ANYTIME. Mine looked really rough, but has performed so well over the past 3-years that I could not have built a better one, other than for looks.

- HorizontalMike

Yours looks a lot better than mine, but, like you, I am very happy with its performance. VERY VERY little gets past it. Only a small fraction of the really fine stuff.

-- Brad, Texas, https://www.youtube.com/user/tonkatoytruck/feed

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