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Forum topic by MrRon posted 01-07-2013 11:12 PM 728 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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MrRon

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01-07-2013 11:12 PM

I am building a cabinet to house an 100 gal aquarium. I figured I need 3 sheets of 3/4” plywood to sheath the cabinet. The finish is to be a medium dark Oak. 3 sheets of a cabinet grade Oak would cost more than I can spend, so I’m down to 2 choices; one is the Chinese Oak panels sold by Lowes and HD which can be poor quality; or I can use the Araco Pine panels that come from So. America and are good quality as far as delaminating goes. I’m inclined toward the Araco panels, but will I be able to apply a convincing Oak finish to them? This is not a fine piece of furniture; just I want it to look good. I’m thinking a shellac filler coat followed by an Oak stain and followed by a polyurethane sealer.


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#1 posted 01-08-2013 04:19 AM

I would build it with 3/4 inch MDF and cover it with 1/4 inch oak ( one side ) plywood panels from the box store. I wood also reccomend making a framework out of 2 X 4 or 2 X 6 construction lumber. What are you going to support the floor with?

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#2 posted 01-08-2013 04:23 AM

I seriously doubt that you can make anything other than oak look like oak by applying a finish. Perhaps an oak veneer?

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Grandpa

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#3 posted 01-08-2013 04:38 AM

Like oluf says what about 1/4 inch oak over a substrate. you would have to make some oak corners to cover things. Wont stain like oak lumber but probably as good as oak plywood.

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#4 posted 01-08-2013 10:14 PM

Here is an overall exploded picture of the aquarium enclosure I’m building. It is set into a wall to be viewed from both sides. The front had rabbeted doors set into openings. The overall width of the enclosure is 94” and sticks out from the wall 14”. 1/4” plywood won’t do as I am using surface mounted hinges. I thought about laminating 1/4” ply to 1/2” ply, but I’m trying to keep the cost down as much as possible.

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#5 posted 01-09-2013 01:19 AM

Could you mount the 1/4 inch over something cheap? Is this for as customer or for you? If this were for me I would shop for a cheap ply or something like that to attach my 1/4 inch to ….I think. Lots of cheaper pretty good products out there.

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#6 posted 01-09-2013 08:45 PM

My customer is my son and he is providing the materials. I’m supplying the labor and we want it to look good.

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DKV

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#7 posted 01-09-2013 08:54 PM

Don’t forget what oluf pointed out. I would be more concerned about 800+ pounds it has to support. After that I would worry about how looks.

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#8 posted 01-10-2013 04:25 AM

Sure it needs to look good but you don’t want to break the bank if you don’t have too. I am thinking you can put 1/4 inch over something else that you will never seel. Can you built the front out of solid oak. I was just looking at the sketch again. Are you going to build this in place? How will you get it through the door. Like building a sail boat in the basement….LOL. Yes DKV this has to be strong. The water will be 833 lbs plus the weight of the tank. This thinng will weigh in over 900 I think. You have a problem here. Wood floor or concrete? Will the floor support the load? Maybe it is already supporting the load. If you used 1/4 inch oak have you priced something like B/C plywood for the substrate? Those together might be as much as oak plywood. I use a lot of Varsity Birch in 5/8 and 3/4 inch. It looks nice for an interior and it is a little cheaper. just kicking around ideas.

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#9 posted 01-10-2013 07:48 PM

I have already taken floor loading into account. As the sketch shows, 3/4” hardwood plywood panels would be the ultimate solution. The cost of 3 panels would be more than we can spend, so I need a good (economical) way to provide a panel that looks good and will hold wood screws for the surface mount hinges. MDF is out for the screw holding reason. I’m hoping a 1/2” B-C grade ply laminated with 1/4” paneling will be economical, although a lot of work; I don’t want to use veneers. My budget for 3 sheets of 3/4” panels is $150. I would like to keep close to that number. I wonder if 1/2” Chinese plywood with 1/4” panel laminated would work. What is your opinion? You have heard of the guy with the beer budget and the champagne taste. Well that’s me when I need to build anything. Cost is always the #1 priority.

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#10 posted 01-11-2013 01:36 AM

I have heard so much about the Chinese plywood delaminating. I don’t know. It might all be made in China today. If the plys are glued well I think it would be okay. You really don’t want to get into reglueing plywood. I used to get plywood from the local lumber yard that was called PTS, It was patched and Touch Sanded. I think that is what the PTS stood for. They sold it for flooring. You could get it in tongue and groove or straight edge. Go to a lumber yard (not big box) and as them what they have that is cheap. You might be surprised.

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