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01-07-2013 01:57 AM

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I cannot find any review (except Amazon) about this dust collector.
Do you know something about it?
Do you use it ?
Thank you for reading and for any information.
Bert

-- Bert


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#1 posted 01-07-2013 02:41 PM

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-- Bert

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#2 posted 01-07-2013 04:51 PM

So no one use this dust collector.
Hard to believe.

-- Bert

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#3 posted 01-07-2013 05:01 PM

I think the ShopFox is Grizzly with nicer paint. You might want to find a similar Grizz and check for reviews on that.

I’ve been looking at ShopFox simply because the dealer is close. They seem to make nice stuff. I looked and see that it is a double bagger, probably similar to the highly rated Delta. But seems that the move is towards cyclone now (and the prices reflect that…absurd I think).

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#4 posted 01-07-2013 05:10 PM

teejk, thank you for your reply.
I am interested in this model because I saw it for around $500.00 which is very in-expense for a 3HP DC.
I would only use the motor/impeller to build a cyclone system.

-- Bert

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#5 posted 01-07-2013 06:07 PM

My understanding (and I could be wrong) is that Shop Fox is owned by the same owner as Grizzly. Grizz is direct to customer, Shop Fox can only be purchased through your local retail outlet (Wood Craft etc..)

I’m not sure how a 3hp can achieve 2800cfm. Sounds over rated on performance, but 3hp makes for a nice dust collector. I have 3.5hp on a 15” impeller and it does great, but do not know the actual cfm.

-- Crashn - the only thing I make more of than sawdust is mistakes

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#6 posted 01-07-2013 06:24 PM

bert…care to share your plan? I need to do something other than read and comment! e-mail works well if you don’t want all the “noise” that comes on this topic.

and crashn…thanks for clarifying that Grizz/ShopFox relationship. I asked the ShopFox dealer and he said only the “cream of the crop” gets white paint, the rest gets painted green. That is one of the problems with most tools…separating fact from marketing.

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#7 posted 01-07-2013 06:45 PM

teejk, I need more scfm to be able to pick up fine dust at the source; TC, planner , slider miter saw, etc.
I am cheap (my wife says frugal) I hate to have pay more than I striclky have to and I rarely pay anything full price.
A new 3.5 to 5HP cyclone system like one I want is beteenfd 1500 and $2000.
My shop is only a hobby and I am not willing to go bankrupt for a hobby.
So i am shopping around to find components to build a system myself on the cheap.
I would use the cyclone sold on E-Bay because Gary who makes it seems to know his stuff and the inlet is 7”.
I need a motor and an impeller, I just find this one on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Oasis-Machinery-1687A5-Heavy-Collector/dp/B005LO9WMW/ref=sr_1_8?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1357580856&sr=1-8.
I already have a Wynn filter but it might be too restrictive,
I shall have to check and I might have to buy a larger one.So far my system should cost me less that $600.00.

-- Bert

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#8 posted 01-07-2013 06:58 PM

have to laugh Bert…my wife considers me “cheap” whereas I say I am “frugal”. In my view, “frugal” means spending money wisely, “cheap” is not spending it. If I’m right, we can consider a trade.

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#9 posted 01-07-2013 07:03 PM

IN fact I think that frugal is more appropriate in my case

-- Bert

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#10 posted 01-07-2013 11:14 PM

bert…so you say “frugal” and your wife says “frugal”...

no trade possibilities there…I have to keep looking.

will be looking as you progress on your plans…I too have a “hobby” and don’t expect perfection, just anywhere between nothing and perfection will work for me if I can get beyond the 85% line on the graph between the two.

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#11 posted 01-07-2013 11:40 PM

Bert, I’m beginning to think that you’re gonna make yourself crazy over the DC system.
I say that with a BUNCH of respect, so don’t take any of my comments as a slam.
DC is the same thing as sharpening planes. How much is too much.
I have a HF collector with really good felted bags (top and bottom). Though the set up is not a fully ducted system, I’ve gotten very good results by moving the hoses from tool to tool.
The bags are from Highland, and have been a great addition to the system.
I get more surface “crap” from open windows than from machines.
I really hope that my post is not construed as a blast, and sometimes the obvious is the best.
I will welcome your PMs if you wish, or you are always able to call me.
662-523-9922
Bill

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#12 posted 01-07-2013 11:51 PM

Bill

as I struggle with design, seems that the “bags” would be a major PITA to empty and have to be done pretty often. Yes or no?

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#13 posted 01-08-2013 12:00 AM

Bill, thank you for your post.

This what I use right now.
As you do I move from machine to machine.
I am tired of that and I want a permanent installation.
In addition this Dc works well to collect chips but very poorly for fine dust.
I am becoming more and more allergic to fine dust and eventually I could develop lung cancer from fine dust.
This is why it is time for me to change my DC installation to permanent rigid duct and more scfm.
I am now shopping for a 3 or 5HP dust collector with a cyclone

-- Bert

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#14 posted 01-09-2013 02:04 PM

This morning ( in fact last night in my bed) I have limited my options:
  • I either build a cyclone dust collector using the cheap made in India 5HP sucker and the E-Bay cyclone ( I have the money for that) and it would be fun ( for me) to build.
  • I wait to buy a PSI 2.5 or 3.5HP Tempest. This in the long run is a better option as it will work better and be more efficient than anything I can build.
  • I am now thinking about installing everything outside my shop under my lean against roof that I built last year. Mostly to save room in the shop.My only concern with this solution is the noise for my neighbors

What ever I decide to do I still have to instal the ducting in my shop and that too will be expensive. I most likely will use 8” and 6” HVAC ducting.

-- Bert

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