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01-06-2013 04:05 PM

I have been looking around craigslist for a while now looking for a decent hybrid table saw. I was hoping to find a Ridgid 4512 or one of the several clones that are out there. I just came across this one:

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/tls/3504476845.html

Asking price seems kind of steep. Considering I can get a 4512 for around $400 if I can find someone to accept a HF coupon. I dont know much about this saw. Any thoughts good or bad on this saw? What would be a good offer on this?


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#1 posted 01-06-2013 04:15 PM

$375 is steep IMO compared to a new R4512 or 21833, considering that there’ no warranty, no recoarse if there’s an issue, no riving knife, steel wings, questionable fence. $250-$300 would be reasonable if it works well.

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#2 posted 01-06-2013 04:16 PM

I think the Hitachi is a decent buy at @$350 in this part of the country where folks want $400 for a 20yr old rusty saw.

I thought I read that the blade elevation gear was plastic on that saw and some folks did not like that but others have liked the saw just fine.

Here are some reviews to read on that saw. One guy had some saw dust catch fire in the saw.

http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/product/33

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#3 posted 01-06-2013 04:55 PM

$375 is steep in my opinion. I sold mine about 2 years ago for $350. It was in brand new condition though.
$250 – $300 would be a better price range if it is in good shape. It says it is a 3 hp saw. It does not
have the power of a 3 horse in my opinion. The frence setup is not very good. I was always having to readjust the fence. For a $250 – $300 saw though it will do the job. If you do get it, change the belt to a link belt and put a blade stabalizer on it and it will run a lot better. Thicker hard wood will make this saw bog down. It depends on what you will be using this saw for.

-- Ron, Michigan

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#4 posted 01-06-2013 05:03 PM

Look for a used made in the USA Delta or Rockwell Contractor’s table saw. They are out there, and in some cases can be bought very reasonably, even with a good fence.

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#5 posted 01-06-2013 05:27 PM

I seem to remember this particular saw having endemic issues with blade locking and tilting mechanisms.
I’d personally keep looking.
I think a late model Craftsman 113 with a T2 fence is a better saw. I see 113s on CL all the time for $100ish and the fence can be had for $160ish. Parts and accessories are plentiful and cheap.
To be clear, I think the (late model) 113 is a better choice than the Hitachi. But not necessarily better than the (later models) of the Ridgid 4512 or Craftsman 21833. I stress “later models” because earlier productions of those saws had uncorrectable blade alignment issues- making them useless.

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#6 posted 01-06-2013 06:24 PM

I have this saw and can’t say much of anything bad about it. The gears inside are metal, haven’t seen any plastic except in the actual handles and they’ve held up fine. The 3hp is if you rewire it for 220v, there’s a diagram to tell you how otherwise it runs on 110 and is probably 1.5hp; still cut through 2” purpleheart fast enough to suit me.
Only down side is the wings are stamped steel so not really co-planer to the cast iron top. The fence is listed as a common problem but I adjusted mine when new and haven’t readjusted it in 3 years.
Dust collection could use some work but I keep the back panel unbolted and just suck out the extra dust every few times; I’m also only using a hf dust collector so it isn’t the most powerful. However I paid 399.99 on clearance 3 years back so I wouldn’t pay more the 300.00 for a used one.

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#7 posted 01-06-2013 07:48 PM

Changing a motor from 110 V to 220 V isn’t going to increase the HP, the motor still runs on the same amount of electricity either way.

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#8 posted 01-06-2013 08:17 PM

I have the same saw and bought it off of CList a few years back. I only paid $250 for it and it is a good $250 saw.
Here is the new model saw available=. Almost same saw just different name on it.
I’ve had it for about 3 years and have had no problems with it. the previous owner must have known what he was doing with it because when i went to adjust the settings the fence was already spot on and i haven’t had to readjust it either.
One minute problem with it is the fence rail. It’s 2 pieces so never really dead on straight/flat and so neither are the stamped steel wings.
I’ve seen a lot of discussion about the 110 vs 220 on this saw as to whether it increases the power. I think these newer motors are capable of doing that. Something about it actually using more coils or windings when you switch to 220. I recently switched it to 220v and its a scary kind of difference. I’m not talking about feed rate or anything like that. just with starting it up you can tell it’s more powerful by the sound difference.
It will be harder to find zero clearance or dado plates for it but i just make my own.
So all in all i’m happy with mine so far but definitely pay no more than $300 and that’s if it’s in really good condition.

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#9 posted 01-06-2013 09:20 PM

Probably why your saw seems more powerful on 220 V is that the 110 V circuit that you had it on was not adequate.

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#10 posted 01-06-2013 10:06 PM

Switching the wiring to 220v won’t double the horsepower rating. If it plugs into a standard 110v residential circuit, it’s not more than ~ 1.75 true hp. The 3hp claim is simply a misleading marketing statement that should be outlawed. It’s a 15 amp, 1.5hp motor 120v, and is a 7.5 amp 1.5hp motor 240v.

As SawSucker mentioned, switching to 220v (aka 240v) can make a saw seem more powerful if the 110v circuit is starving the saw for juice, but what’s actually happening is the saw is running like it should, not gaining hp.

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#11 posted 01-06-2013 11:12 PM

It was on a 20amp 120v circuit direct from sub panel and definitely not starved for juice. I can’t get to the motor to see the plate/info and the only info on the outside is the 110v, 15amp.

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#12 posted 01-07-2013 01:11 AM

If you were on a dedicated 20 amp 110 V circuit you should of been good, unless you were useing to light of an extension cord. I still doubt that the saw is any more powerful hooked up to 220 V. I’ve had this discussion with a local electrician friend of mine when I had my shop rewired..

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#13 posted 01-07-2013 01:37 AM

PLugged right into the outlet and i only use 12 gauge or 10ga extension cords otherwise. I’ve always said the same thing; that 220v only reduced the amp draw but this thing scared me after i wired it for 220 and turned it on. Seems to hit/spin harder and slightly faster. If it was the same power just with less amp draw shouldn’t it sound the same spinning with no load or turning on?
And i know about the whole marketing thing with the “3 hp developed” that a lot of companies do.
Not saying it is 3 hp in the end but it definitely cuts better and easier wired for 220v.

-- In the end, when your life flashes before your eyes, will you like what you see?

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