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01-05-2013 01:51 PM

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I thought I wanted to buy a Grizzly DC but this morning looking at the 2.5HP TEMPEST “S” make me hesitate.
It seems that the 2.5HP TEMPEST “S” has more capacity for less money. ( about $250 less)
Is it made in the USA?
I notice that the 2.5HP TEMPEST “S” does not have the remote control that the G0440 has but also the Grizzly filter is only 96 sq. ft compare with the 2.5HP TEMPEST “S” 452 sq. ft, this is a huge difference.
What do you think?
Thank you for your help.

-- Bert


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#1 posted 01-05-2013 02:40 PM

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-- Bert

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#2 posted 01-05-2013 03:01 PM

They are not made in the USA, my previous DC was a PSI, it was all import. That’s not a problem for me and I see they have an extended warranty on the motors (which is typically the problem area). I’m not sure about what the increased filter media does, but I’ll be upsizing mine this spring…I know for sure it will allow more air flow, and I hope I’ll be able to clean less frequently (one of PSI’s points). If the pores are the same size between the 2 filters, more has to be better since it will allow more to breathe, or the same amount to breathe more easily. One thing about the PSI units I really like: the aluminum impeller. It starts up a lot easier/faster.

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#3 posted 01-05-2013 03:05 PM

Thank you Fred

-- Bert

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#4 posted 01-05-2013 03:46 PM

anxious to see answers as i am looking at dc’s myself and i spotted this penn state one.

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#5 posted 01-05-2013 03:59 PM

I read a review for the tempest only 3 years old.
The price went up about 50% in three years? amazing

-- Bert

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#6 posted 01-05-2013 04:48 PM

Dust collection has become more important to people in the last 3 years. Supply and demand. Would the aluminum impellar be something that could be damaged easier it you sucked up something that happened to get into it?

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#7 posted 01-05-2013 05:16 PM

Grandpa, the idea is that only clean air with fine dust goes through the impeller.
I know that s*t happens but most of the time it does not .
” Dust collection has become more important to people in the last 3 years.”
This is true. I think that it is good thing. I would hate to get lung cancer.

-- Bert

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#8 posted 01-05-2013 05:21 PM

If you vent you DC outside into a barrel then you don’t need fine filters,I feel other than their bags most of the low cost DC’s are the same that’s why I go for HF units.

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#9 posted 01-05-2013 05:31 PM

Jim, There is at least two problems with your propositions:
A small DC like the HF does not have enough scfm and velocity to pick up fine dust at the source: my main goal
Venting outside waste you heated or cooled shop air.
My intention is now to have the DC outside but the filter inside my shop, I save space but I do not waste my air.
Jim my issue is not wood chips but fine dust. For wood chips the HF Dc is perfect, for fine dust it is too small.
In addition I have close by neighbors, I doubt that they appreciate eating my dust.

-- Bert

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#10 posted 01-05-2013 05:40 PM

Bert—I don’t have any experience with the Grizzly, but the PSI is a good performer. The shop where I take woodturning classes has 6 of them (each with a filter canister). They are quieter than my Jet.

—Gerry

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#11 posted 01-05-2013 05:55 PM

I have a Grizzly 2hp cannister filter and have been very happy with it. It does not have a remote control and I’d say that would be very nice to have. You might want to compare the airflow specs on the two.

-- Don, Royersford, PA

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#12 posted 01-05-2013 05:55 PM

Bert
I’ve been using HF units for 8 years with good results(no DC units get 100% of dust),my units are vented outside and since I don’t run my dust collector for hours on end ,I suffer no heat lost. Many times reading post and answers to questions from company’s selling these products about such things do not match what the true results are.Because they are selling a product their interest is not in giving you the least expensive easiest route to take but to create a need for what products they sell. Good luck on what ever unit you select.

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#13 posted 01-05-2013 06:04 PM

Thank you Gerry.
Jim you know that I have HF DC and that I brag about it.
My concern is dust in suspension in my shop entering my lungs, everything in my shop is covered with fine dust.
I read other posts of people with a better dust collection system and I read that for them this issue is mostly deal with.

-- Bert

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#14 posted 01-05-2013 06:25 PM

Bert—I had similar concerns, so I bought a RIKON (61-200) air filtration system and hung it from the ceiling along one wall of my shop. Any time I am using any machinery that creates dust, the RIKON is running. When I am done for the day, I kick it up on high and let her run for two hours (it has 3 speeds, a remote and timer). Keeps the shop a lot cleaner and there’s a lot less fine dust in the air.

—Gerry

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#15 posted 01-05-2013 06:30 PM

Yes Bert I know what your saying but if you vent out side you don’t have to be concerned if you have a filter with ,0005 microns or 10 micron because there is no bag or filter inside your shop all the material goes outside,including dust.
If you mount you DC totally outside you save floor space all but eliminate the noise of the DC unit and don’t have to be concerned about how well you filter works.
Everyone does what they think is best in their shops ,I know what I do works for me and you do what works for you.
That’s what makes the world go around. I just posted here to present and alternative to spending $2000 on a DC for those who are looking for a alternate route to take,not to say your choice is wrong .
Have a good one buddy

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