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Forum topic by Zor posted 12-30-2012 02:55 AM 1087 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Zor

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12-30-2012 02:55 AM

I picked up my first planes at a yard sale this morning and I was wondering if someone could give me some info on em. They are all Stanley. There’s a 5 1/2, a 4 and then the smaller one has a number in the 200’s cast behind the knob. All of em look pretty clean and the bases aren’t scarred. I was going to wait to buy anything until I’d done more research, but I came across these and thought I better not pass em up. What kind of identifying marks should I look for so that I can identify age and value. Like I said, I was going to research first, then purchase. Oh well, so much for that plan. Here are some pictures…

Thanks in advance,

Zor


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#1 posted 12-30-2012 03:03 AM

The block plane is probably a 220. Not a bad plane, but nothing special either. The 5 1/2 and 4 look to be in pretty decent shape. As for identifying the vintage, I use the “Type Study” at www.rexmill.com Bear in mind that Stanley often used leftover parts from one type to the next, so its not etched in stone. Neither appear to be what I would call “collector” types, so the 4 is probably worth $40-$50 and the 5 1/2 somewhere around $70. Of course, that’s in my area where these planes are fairly common.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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#2 posted 12-30-2012 03:14 AM

Nice haul. Those look like decent vintages, and will make very fine users.

Now add a jointer plane and you’ll have basically every plane you’ll need to take rough stock to dimensioned boards.

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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#3 posted 12-30-2012 03:20 AM

The 4 and the 5 1/2 can both be typed, as above. Right away, by the black colour, the red background to the ‘Stanley’ on the lever cap, the high shape front knob, and the kidney shaped hole in the lever cap, you can start to narrow down to between 1933-1961. If I had to guess, the knob and handle look like rosewood but I can readily see the grain, so I would guess a Type 16, between 1933-1941.

Not collector types, but very good users. The 5 1/2 being a rare-ish but very useful size is a particularly nice one to pick up.

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#4 posted 12-30-2012 03:36 AM

Thanks for the info guys. I used the type study suggested above and came up with the following; the 5 1/2 is a type 13 from 1925-28 and the no. 4 is a type 15 from 1931-32. Sikrap, you’re right about the small one being a 220 I cleaned up behind the knob and it’s clear as day. I didn’t see anything on dating that one, but since it came from the same guy I’m guessing it’s around the same age. I can’t believe these are this old. They look like brand new planes after a little clean up. I guess it’s time to learn how to sharpen them…

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#5 posted 12-30-2012 03:51 AM

Picture made it look like the hole in the level cap was kidney-shaped – if it isn’t, that would be about right, the type 15 was the last without that design element. The 5 1/2 is definitely older, because of where ‘Bailey’ is cast on the toe.

Both of those types, if accurate, are from the ‘Sweetheart’ era, which many would say was about as good as they got other than the premium ‘Bedrock’ ones.

In any case, learn to tune them up and sharpen them, it is a great base to start from.

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#6 posted 12-30-2012 08:06 AM

All three have a SW inside a heart logo on the blade. I suppose that was $25 well spent. Thanks again for the info. Time to learn the wetstones.

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#7 posted 12-30-2012 01:40 PM

$25 well spent!! That would have been a good price for the #4. You probably won’t spend a better $25 in your woodworking career.

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#8 posted 12-30-2012 02:05 PM

If you got all 3 for $25, that requires a “YOU SUCK!!” :)) Congrats!! It is very difficult to date block planes. I’ve got a bunch that I know are very old, but can’t find a way to determine the vintage.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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#9 posted 12-30-2012 02:25 PM

Very good Zor. You’re going to have some fun with those planes.

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#10 posted 12-30-2012 03:25 PM

A nice group of planes and I’ agree with Dave on all counts. Really good price. Good enough for another “YOU SUCK”.

I have a reference site with some other dating material. I like the mega chart the best. Sometimes its helpful to visit more than one to narrow it down. They sometime don’t all agree.

The 5 1/2 looks like it has a crack on the outside left check. That will affect the value a little, but not the performance.

We’ll be expecting actions shots!!

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#11 posted 12-30-2012 06:10 PM

Thanks guys. The garage sale gods have been smiling on me lately. I bought a pile of chisels yesterday too, but they need some real cleaning before I can start identifying them. They are all european or american in manufacture, I felt that was a good start. That and the price was right (I hope). That’s today’s project. Can anyone recommend a good source of wood handles for old chisels? I have two without the handle, and will need to inspect the rest of em.

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#12 posted 12-30-2012 06:26 PM

Assuming you can’t make them yourself, let me know what you need and I can turn some for you.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#13 posted 12-30-2012 11:28 PM

Don, I looked at your site. The stuff you do is amazing. You’d be correct in your assumption that I’m not able to make my own. I’ll try to get you some pictures and dimensions for an idea of what I need.

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