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TerryDavis

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12-29-2012 02:15 AM

Much to my surprise…my parents got me the R4512 for Christmas; apparently they (and I) realized that since my first child is on the way, this will be my last Christmas for quite a while. I haven’t even gotten it out of the box yet, as I am still trying to get my new basement shop all figured out…but I sure am anxious to start building it.

I have been looking around at different modification and additions to this rig, but I’m sure that I am missing some good ones. If anybody has any suggestions or warnings, please don’t hesitate to throw them my way!

Anybody got any recomendations on which blade to replace the stock blade with? I work in the tool department of a General Store and we do have a pretty good selection of Freud blades, but I have no clue where to begin with which one to use…

Thanks,
-Terry

-- -TD


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knotscott

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#1 posted 12-29-2012 02:19 AM

Read on Macbeth!

Congrats on the new saw! Great gift!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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woodworker59

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#2 posted 12-29-2012 02:43 AM

not knowing what type of projects you have in mind, its hard to answer. I have the Rigid3560. I love the saw, and I have a freud blade on it.. I use the 50 tooth combination blade, thin kerf for most of my work. If I am going to be doing a lot of ripping, will change to the 40 tooth thin kerf. You will also want to pick up a dado set for it. I have the avanti stack set and its been fine.. not real expensive and does a good job.. one of the first things that you want to do is make some zero clearance inserts for the table. one for the single blade and one for the dado.. although you may need to make a few for the dado. I have a 3/8” and a 3/4” insert that covers most of my dado use. no matter what blade you use, you will have chip out with out making the zero clearance inserts.
I love my Rigid, hope you have great success with yours and don’t forget to post your first project with it.. we all love to see what others are making….... Papa

-- Papa@papaswoodworking.com

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Randy_ATX

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#3 posted 12-29-2012 02:48 AM

I picked up a 4512 about 6 months ago and couldn’t be more pleased with it. I purchased a Freud 24 tooth (if you will be ripping, a good idea) and 80 tooth blade from Home Depot the same day as the saw.
http://www.homedepot.com/buy/diablo-10-in-x-80-tooth-carbide-circular-saw-blade-d1080x.html#.UN5bRuTAchU

http://www.homedepot.com/buy/diablo-10-in-x-24-tooth-carbide-circular-saw-blade-d1024xh.html#.UN5bkeTAchU

I would also suggest a zero clearance insert (easy to build) if you plan on doing any fine work, it has helped me out tremendously. Looks like a wealth of info in knotscott’s blog. I am headed over there now. :)

-- Randy -- Austin, TX by way of Northwest (Woodville), OH

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TerryDavis

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#4 posted 12-29-2012 02:38 PM

@knotscott – Thanks for the link. I started reading it last night, and will finish it later today (at work now). There seems to be quite a bit of good info in there that should help in guiding me to the right blade(s).

@papa – I don’t think I am even sure of what my projects will be at this point. This is a hobby that I am relatively new to, but it is one that has always interested me. I have built a few projects in the past couple of years with my limited tools out of my garage, and now that I am finally getting everything moved to my basement (and expanding my tools) I am looking forward to building new and exciting things that should help to test my skills and let me learn new ones. My mom has been tole painting for many years and says that as repayment for buying the saw for me, I WILL be building her things to paint. This is likely to include wall shelves, clocks, Christmas ornaments, gift boxes, and anything else she can find to paint. I would also like to build some new end tables for my family room and nighstands for the bedroom, as well as maybe a new coffee table, possibly a new vanity for our small 1/2 bath, and the list is sure to go on. I am also really liking what I see with these “tumbling block cutting boards.” Might have to give those a shot once I get the saw built and wired into the basement.

@Randy – What did you build your zero-clearance insert out of? I have read some things online about guys with the 4512 having issues with there not being enough of a lip to safely hold the insert. As I have not physically seen this saw yet, I cannot comment. I mentioned before that I work in the tool dept. of a General Store, and being that I see you were from Woodville, I’m sure you have heard of The Anderson’s?
Have you made any exciting modifications to your 4512 that are worthwhile? I’m looking at adding a shop-built extension table to the right for my PC690 router and if the store can track down the boxes that their inventory says they have, a Freud router table fence. I might also build a flip up outfeed support for the saw as well.

Anyways, thanks for the responses and the quick responses and the info. If anybody else has any thoughts or comments, please feel free to throw them my way.

Thanks,
-Terry

-- -TD

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LeChuck

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#5 posted 12-29-2012 02:52 PM

When I bought my 4512, I also got the 50 tooth thin kerf Diablo combination blade that they have and have been very happy with it. With the saw tuned and straightened and that blade, my cuts are all very smooth and burn free.

-- David - Tucson, AZ

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wncguy

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#6 posted 12-29-2012 02:57 PM

Terry – I recently bought a 4512 & based on comments about zero clearance inserts decided to purchase the one offered by LeeCraft. They make 2 different ones with & without riving slot (RG-5 & RG-6). I really like it & found that the owner Ron Lee offers a deal if you order 3 inserts…. total $55 including shipping. It’s a lot less expensive than buying from Woodcraft. You may wish to check into this, it’s pretty inexpensive if you don’t want to make one.
My only problem was figuring out how to remove the riving knife before cutting the insert.

I can provide Ron’s contact info if you’re interested.

-- Any man can be a father, but it takes someone special to be a Dad

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#7 posted 12-29-2012 03:11 PM

Can you post ron’s contact info, thx

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#8 posted 12-29-2012 03:11 PM

The blades I use.
Great blades; I’ve been using them as long as I can remember, at least 5+ years.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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Randy_ATX

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#9 posted 12-29-2012 04:57 PM

Terry,

Yes, I used to shop at the Andersons. Hadn’t heard their name in years!
I have attached some photos of what I came up with. At the thinnest point I still have over 1/8 of an inch, so certainly there isn’t a lot, however I will never apply that much force directly down on the insert. There are about 8 areas with an adjustment screw where it is that thin, the rest has a deeper lip running all around it. The photos should give you a better idea of what I am describing. That being said, it would be much easier to purchase one. I just like to save money and do things myself wherever possible. This took me about 10 minutes to build.

As mentioned above, you will need to remove the riving knife. With the saw unplugged, reach down inside, there is a rubber coated lever you need to move 90 degrees, you then wiggle the knife up and out. Certainly I would put it back in for ripping.

Hope that helps.

Eventually I want to add a router table to the right and a portable outfeed table and connect dust collection to the bottom of it. Keep us posted on your progress.

-- Randy -- Austin, TX by way of Northwest (Woodville), OH

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wncguy

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#10 posted 12-29-2012 05:51 PM

RJweb – here’s the information on Leecraft, Inc.
Ron Lee’s email – ronleecraft@aol.com
office # 770-983-1797, cell 770-654-3629.

-- Any man can be a father, but it takes someone special to be a Dad

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Clint Searl

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#11 posted 12-29-2012 06:01 PM

The 8” Freud Fusion #P408 will do 98.7% of what needs doing.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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knotscott

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#12 posted 12-29-2012 07:56 PM

Clint – The 10” P410 Fusion will do all of what an 8” P408 will do, and then some. Why bother with the 8”? Price is about the same, and the 8” decreases the cutting height, and changes the attack angle of the teeth.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Clint Searl

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#13 posted 12-29-2012 09:21 PM

TIhe 8” is a friendlier blade….lower angular velocity. If you ain’t ripping 12/4 stock, why does cutting height matter? Attack angle is irrelevant in my experience. I parked my 10” Forrest, Ridge, and custom blades a couple years ago with no loss of capability.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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knotscott

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#14 posted 12-29-2012 09:25 PM

Doesn’t the tighter radius effectively change the hook angle to something steeper and more aggressive?

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Clint Searl

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#15 posted 12-29-2012 10:40 PM

All the aggression comes from the tip speed.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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