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Forum topic by Don W posted 12-28-2012 11:09 PM 1479 views 1 time favorited 84 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Don W

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12-28-2012 11:09 PM

The nice thing about this site is the collective knowledge. Although there are some folks who come here just to get questions answered, the number of folks willing to share their knowledge is outstanding.

I’ve often heard many beginning in the craft, be it for fun or for profit, who won’t answer questions because they don’t feel they know enough to speak. I say hogwash.

I believe we all have the same amount to learn. Now I know I’ll get an argument for that statement, but bare with me for a minute.

I believe the more you know, the more you need to know.

For instance, a person who doesn’t use hand planes doesn’t need to know how to sharpen them. And if he decides to learn hand planing he probably doesn’t even know he needs to know how to flatten the sole, so there it is. He didn’t need to know how to flatten the sole, and now he needs to know, even though he doesn’t know it yet.

Learning the stuff you know you need to know is the easy part. Figuring out what you need to know can be the difficult task.

Once you know how to apply an oil finish, you’ll need to know lacquer.

Once you know how to smooth with a smoother, you’ll need to know how to level with a jack and scrape with a scraper.

You can’t stop it, once you learn 1 thing, there are 2 more things you’ll need to learn.

So what’cha got. What do you need to learn, so some one else can tell you what you don’t know you’ll need to learn?

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com


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Dallas

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#1 posted 12-28-2012 11:15 PM

Great topic Don!

I just need to learn patience.

Most of my problems and mistakes come from trying to hurry the process or taking a short cut I’m not sure of.

It would also be nice to be able to learn how to make some of those pieces I cut too short, loooooonnnnnngggggeeeeerrrrrrrr! ;>}

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#2 posted 12-28-2012 11:18 PM

so you’re saying you don’t know that you need to learn to stop cutting those pieces to ssshhhooorrrtttt!!!

as for patience, once you learn that, then you need to learn will power and endurance.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Handtooler

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#3 posted 12-28-2012 11:19 PM

Don, Boy, do I ever agree with this forum entry! I learn something new to me every day. The people contributing on this site really tutor me. Then, I also have friends visit my shop and see what I’m into and say “Let me show you a trick.” or “I do that a different way you may find easier or with less effort.” Thanks to all who help me so much.

-- Russell Pitner Hixson, TN 37343 bassboy40@msn.com

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#4 posted 12-28-2012 11:21 PM

I’d like to contribute but, I don’t know what I need to know. If I knew what I need to know…...I’d ask…..

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#5 posted 12-28-2012 11:33 PM

I don’t know what I don’t know about my lovely set of chisels, still unused.
I have no clue what I’m unaware of regarding my bandsaw which will hopefully arrive soon.
I’m completely unaware about what I don’t know about the shed I’m planning to build next spring.
I’m in the dark about my ignorance regarding sharpening.
I’m incognizant of my oblivion about how hard it is to make a tea box.
I’m unsuspecting of my incompetence in staining.

That’s it, I’m replete of examples illustrating the unknown part of my knowledge.

:)

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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#6 posted 12-28-2012 11:34 PM

OK, I’ll bite. I need to know more about carcase (carcass?) design. Or more correctly I want to know more about it. This is motivated by my desire to un-clutter my garage/shop as much as I can by building a free standing storage cabinet.

I have a couple of ideas sketched out on a notebook, but I have no idea if my design(s) are fundamentally sound or a waste of time and materials waiting to happen.

I think what I need is a couple of recommendations for some study materials. And, I am sure, there are things I need to know about carcase design and/or execution that I don’t know I need to know.

-- "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." - Mark Twain

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#7 posted 12-28-2012 11:34 PM

Will power and endurance are easy! I spent an hour a couple of weeks ago happily cutting pieces for a weave type cabinet door. I cut every one of the 100 or so pieces exactly the same…... 1/8” too short because the measuring stick I used to set up the saw had an eigth inch gap between the end and the 0” mark.
I plead being tired from cutting up downed branches and hauling them all day.

I reality, if I hadn’t been in a hurry, I wouldn’t have tried to do it when that tired or at the very least, checked and rechecked on scrap wood.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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Brit

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#8 posted 12-28-2012 11:50 PM

I’d like to know what is the best type of brush to use to brush on a lacquer finish and can anyone recommend a good brush-on lacquer?

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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pintodeluxe

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#9 posted 12-28-2012 11:53 PM

I thought I knew the answer to your question, but now I am confused.
I know this t-shirt is funny.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#10 posted 12-29-2012 12:10 AM

I’m learning all the ways to make my tools more accurate. I always thought my insert plate was flat enough but after a day of having too many small pieces fall and wedge into the blade I finally made a zero clearence insert. In the process I made sure it was perfectly flush to the table top even using a scraper to get it just right. The result is that 2 days ago I was able to make perfectly mitered corners which wasn’t possible before. The old insert was just enough above to screw things up. Now I need to work on a more accurate router table.

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse

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Dennisgrosen

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#11 posted 12-29-2012 12:16 AM

is it a demand I am able to remember
ooh wait a minut I do remember
not to hit meself the excact same way again
with the rubbermallet
I gess I am able to learn new things

joke aside :-)
you are so right on this … the more you learn ,lesser you know
and if you don´t use what you learn …. its the same as not have learned it
what a shame if knowledge is forgotten becourse it has not been passed
to the next generation or another with the same interress
maybee you don´t like or don´t think you can teach other people
doesn´t matter share the knowledge with passion even though they maybee
look at you with scared empty eyes not undertstanding what you are talking about
if they have asked they have the intterress and the knowledge will be passed to them
one way or another from you
maybee not used next day or next month but it will be ready the day they need it
since what is learned thrugh hands is like printed in stone … can´t be deleted

take care
Dennis

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#12 posted 12-29-2012 12:20 AM

I knew absolutely everything when I was 18. Now I’m 66 and am realizing just how little I’ve learned.
That’s the beauty of age, the more you know, the more there is to learn.
Keeps the aging process “young”

-- When I was a boy, I was told "anyone can be President", now I'm beginning to believe it!

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a1Jim

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#13 posted 12-29-2012 12:30 AM

I feel you you can’t trust what you know until you find out what you don’t know.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#14 posted 12-29-2012 12:39 AM

We can always learn something.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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#15 posted 12-29-2012 12:41 AM


I know nothing!

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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