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Duality240

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583 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: question ryobi ridgid benchtop planer

As usual, for Christmas my family has blessed me with HD gift cards. I am considering buying my first planer. Not sure exactly how much use it will get, but if I can find a source of rough sawn lumber near my home, It will certainly get used on a regular basis. When comparing the Ridgid R4331 and the Ryobi AP1301 on HD’s website, I notice that the minimum cutting depth of the Ridgid is zero while the minimum cutting depth of the Ryobi is .125. Does that mean that it is impossible to plane less than 1/8” per pass? That doesn’t sound right at all to me. I don’t mind that there are no infeed/outfeed tables, but not being able to adjust the depth of cut would would almost certainly force me to buy the more expensive Ridgid (I love Ridgid tools but was hoping to save a little money so I can buy more tools!)

-- I've been doing this for years but I am still a newb


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JesseTutt

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#1 posted 583 days ago

I wonder if Ryobi is saying that you should not plane anything that is less than 0.125 inch thick? Personal experience is I stop around 3/16 of an inch in thickness. Anything thinner than this tend to shatter inside the planer. When I get close to this thickness I switch to the drum sander.

But then why would Ridgid list 0 as the minimum cutting depth? I don’t know.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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toolie

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#2 posted 583 days ago

I don’t mind that there are no infeed/outfeed tables,

you will when the snipe becomes more than you can tolerate. go for the ridgid or look for something like a delta 22-580 on CL:

http://www.amazon.com/22-580-13-Inch-Benchtop-Planer-120-Volt/sim/B0000648AS/2

the dewalt 735 is always a top tool winner in benchtop planer tests, but it’s >$600 retail in most places and needs the $50 in/out feed table accessory to tame it’s snipe.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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Mike

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#3 posted 583 days ago

I have the ridgid and I love the thing. I’ve had it well over a year now and have put hundreds of ft through it without having to flip the blades. It’s worth the money in my opinion.

-- look Ma! I still got all eleven of my fingers! - http://www.termitecrafts.com

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Duality240

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#4 posted 583 days ago

Toolie, I don’t mind that it doesn’t have infeed/outfeed tables because that will be the first thing I build for it :) I’ve looked on CL for the last few days and the people that live in my area think a 3 year old tool is “vintage” and demands a premium price. I live in a bad area (N. KY) for woodworking. No lumberyards, no sawmills, apparently not much interest in the hobby unless I am missing something. My choices are HD and LO unless I want to drive 30+ miles to Cincy and visit Rockler or Woodcraft. I think both of those places are a little pricey, but then I am on a limited budget. If I weren’t, Rockler would be building a store next to my house and I would keep them hopping! Also, as I said, I’m not sure how much use I am going to get out of the tool, so I am trying to go cheap first. If I find that the planer is getting a LOT of use and isn’t meeting the demand, I’ll save my money, sell the old one and buy the right tool for the job. Thanks for the link though, it made me drool all over my keyboard!

JesseTutt, you might be right, but that is a weird way to list it. I don’t think I would be planing anything to less than 1/4” finished thickness, but you never know I guess. I do not own a drum sander (yet, it’s on the list), but I have a friend that would let me use theirs if the need arises. He lives 25 miles away, so it would have to be a pretty big project!

-- I've been doing this for years but I am still a newb

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Luke

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#5 posted 583 days ago

I also have the Ridgid planer and It has been flawless for me. The dust collection is great, it came with an extra set of knives and they are reversible so once one side dulls you flip them over. So essentially 4 sets of knives and I’ve so far only gone through two in over 5 years. As far as the minimum thickness issue I don’t know what they are referring to. On my ridgid the minimum depth STOP is 1/8” but you can work your way down in whatever increments you choose. Turn the wheel just a little and take off 1/128 if you like. It’s pretty accurate. Most people do an auxillary table inside the planer which all but eliminates the snipe. I’ve gotten pretty good using the fold down tables that came with mine and can pretty much eliminate it with a slight “pull” upwards as it exits the back of the planer. In my opinion Ryobi makes cheap crap that I would only consider buying if it was a one time tool type purchase. If you buy quality you will be MUCH happier in the long run. Look for the 10% off moving coupon from the post office. The Dewalt looks like a great tool as well but for double the price I don’t know. If the ridgid had a speed control it would be cool cause you could slow it down and really eliminate the scallops that planers make, BUT, if you scrape or finish sand or hand plane it afterwards it’s gone in a jiffy.

-- LAS, http://www.abettersign.com

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crank49

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#6 posted 583 days ago

A few days ago someone mentioned the Ridgid was being dis-continued at their HD and was on clearance. That would be a deal I would jump all over if I had any money and needed a planer. My HD had a Dewalt 735 on sale. Also a deal.

I have the Ryobi you speak of, and I am satisfied with it, but would rather have a Dewalt or Ridgid. I got it off the clearance rack for around $120. It had been used less than a month and returned. The tool manager at my store said that happened sometimes when people buy a machine for a project, then return it before the 30 day refund period is out.

About the indicated cutting height. The specifications in most web listings are written by people who would not know which end of a screwdriver goes on the screw.

The motor and blade assembly of the Ryobi and several other planers, including Dewalt and Ridgid are virtually the same. Probably a sub assembly purchased by several manufacturers. Where they differ is in the raising and lowering and guide mechanisms. I personally like the design of the Ridgid for that part the best, but they all have about the same capacity for adjustment.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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Duality240

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#7 posted 583 days ago

Based on what I am seeing so far, there is gonna be another orange tool in my garage soon. Luke, what is this 10% off moving coupon you speak of? Never heard of it.

“About the indicated cutting height. The specifications in most web listings are written by people who would not know which end of a screwdriver goes on the screw.” Thanks for the chuckle Crank!

-- I've been doing this for years but I am still a newb

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dhazelton

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#8 posted 583 days ago

My Middletown NY Home Depot store has the Rigid planer at a close out price of $239. Check your store.

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MashMaster

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#9 posted 583 days ago

I have the Ryobi and my friend has the Rigid. I have yet to see any quality difference. Take small passes and the quality is spot on.

I have used big powermatic ones at our local community college and the quality of cut is the same. They can take bigger passes but I’m ok with taking light passes.

The problem with both the Rigid and the Ryobi that I have encountered is that sometimes I need to push/pull the wood through the planer

-- - Dave ; Austin, TX

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cutworm

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#10 posted 583 days ago

I own or owned both. The Ryobi does well but you do see snipe more on it. It also has 2 knives vs. 3 on the Ridgid. The fold up tables are handy as well. If budget allows I’d pick orange. If not blue will serve you well. When I had the Ryobi I would plane to thickness before cutting to length allowing me to cut off the end where snipe occurred. I have been happy with both planers.

-- Steve - "Never Give Up"

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Madwood

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#11 posted 583 days ago

I have the older version of the Ridgid planer, the TP1300. Although it has the 2 knife cutterhead, it still does a good jobe for me. The only caveat for me is the limited availability of knives. My HD is about 25 miles away and it seems they only ever stock a couple sets. When I do find them, I always buy 2-3 sets, if they have that many. Nothing worse than getting there and they have 0 in stock. I have gotten a few deals on eBay though. Anyway, after 6 yrs, my 1300 is still going strong…no real regrets
John

-- In the shop making chaos out of order

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runswithscissors

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#12 posted 583 days ago

Most people are not aware that Ryobi invented the lunchbox planer back in the early 80s. The shop teacher at the school where I taught bought one (10 inch capacity in those days) and set it up in the school shop on an 8 foot long table with rollers at each end. School shops typically buy rough cut lumber, as they want kids to go through the whole process from start to finish. Everybody stopped using the big industrial planer (about as big as a VW bug) and really put that little Ryobi to the test. Last I heard, it was still going after 2 or 3 years. Imagine the abuse to which the kids put that planer.
I have no idea how the current Ryobi holds up, so can’t advise you on this purchase. My own preference is for heavy duty planers (not necessarily larger) with induction motors (220 v.) I have owned a couple of lunchbox planers, including a DW735. On any such planer, the depth of cut is very limited because the little motors can’t handle the load, especially with wide material.

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gfadvm

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#13 posted 583 days ago

Take a Harbor Freight 20% off coupon to Home Depot and buy the Ridgid planer.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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Luke

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#14 posted 582 days ago

When you go to the post office they have a moving package that comes in a small envelope. They are free to people who ask. Inside, there used to be a 10% off coupon for Home Depot. I haven’t asked since we moved some time back so I’m not very sure if this is still the case but worth a try. About the Harbor Freight coupon I have tried that and the manager looked at me like I was crazy. I’m sure that some of them will give you the deal but I wouldn’t say it’s sure fire.

-- LAS, http://www.abettersign.com

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indychip

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#15 posted 582 days ago

Duality24- What part of N. Ky are you in? I get all of my rough sawn lumber from a guy just north of Louisville in Indiana. Good prices lots of choices. If interested, message me and I will give you his contact info.

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