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Forum topic by DKV posted 12-21-2012 01:34 AM 825 views 0 times favorited 21 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-21-2012 01:34 AM

The following is from my personal bible:

Normality, (also known as normalcy) is the state of being normal.

1. Behaviour can be normal for an individual (intrapersonal normality) when it is consistent with the most common behaviour for that person.

2. Normal is also used to describe when someone’s behaviour conforms to the most common behaviour in society (known as conforming to the norm).

Definitions of normality vary by person, time, place, and situation – it changes along with changing societal standards and norms. Normal behaviour is often only recognized in contrast to abnormality. In its simplest form, normality is seen as good while abnormality is seen as bad.  Someone being seen as “normal” or “not normal” can have social ramifications, including being included, excluded or stigmatized by larger society.

So, here is my question. What is normal behavior on the internet while participating on a website that allows for interaction between different people with different views, different upbringing, different mates (which most definitely affects a person) different jobs, different daily challenges, different belief systems, different…

It is my belief to call a spade a spade and I accept that my opinion is going to be questioned, denigrated, ignored and even agreed with. If we can’t say (without resorting to foul language) what we think and feel how are we going to get our “normal” across to another person who thinks their “normal” is the true normal. Why can’t I say I don’t believe in god or I am a muslim or I think you are not thinking right or the way you think just doesn’t make any “normal” sense or if I have a belief that is not consistent with the majority of the website then I must not approach that subject? People say they have the ability to accept other’s beliefs and opinions but they just don’t want to hear about them or discuss them.

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#1 posted 12-21-2012 02:04 AM

I think we all have our own sense of normal ,If ones sense of normal demands that others are stirred up or upset by what they say or do then the instigator as some might call them try’s to bend others sense of normal, thus trying to alter others into there way of thinking in the process. This may cause the end of the world??? :))

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#2 posted 12-21-2012 02:15 AM

Thanks a1Jim. The fact that you (the site consensus normal) posted should cause others to post.

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#3 posted 12-21-2012 02:32 AM

Jeez- DKV, Just for a minute I thought that you had bought Dragon. There was one very long sentence in there. I thought you were the Dudster. All in all I do agree with you that you should be able to say what needs to be said on a online forum.

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#4 posted 12-21-2012 02:43 AM

Although it’s the Internet, I think most people expect manners and decorum like a real society…which means announcing contrary views with some tact and espousing those views with a dignity becoming of a mature, adult Lunberjock. When that doesn’t happen, people get upset. In real life, you might call a spade a spade, but you’d do it with consideration of other people’s feelings. Do it on an Internet forum and you risk the danger of coming across like an insensitive jackass.

For me, I don’t mind contrary views…but as with any statement of opinion, it should probably be well thought out and solidly debated. I mean, you can call a spade a spade all you want, but we can’t read your mind why you think its spade and not a heart, club, or diamond. For example, coming in the off-topic forum and making a statement like “we should get rid of guns” is a pretty good recipe for stirring up a bee hive. It’s not that we shouldn’t talk about such things, but efforts should be made to invite people to the debate and to have solid, well founded opinions. I think the gun thread backfired on Madts for that reason, even though he eventually recovered. It’s a sensitive topic, so things like that should be handled with kid gloves.

Ultimately, we are all different, but the way we treat others should be the same. That’s normal.

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#5 posted 12-21-2012 02:46 AM

DKV, I guess I don’t really understand your question, or maybe the point you’re trying to get across. “Normal” is just what you see here, every day. As you point out, “normal” has a wide range of variation. I think you can (and do) say what you think here, within the rules established by the site admins. In fact, you can even step outside those boundaries if you are willing to accept the consequences. If I am not understanding your question properly then please feel free to clarify.

-- John, BC, Canada

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#6 posted 12-21-2012 02:56 AM

i have to kinda go with John on this one DKV its not a normal Question

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#7 posted 12-21-2012 02:57 AM

Cosmicsniper, it may be normal for madts to get a conversation going by throwing a sentence out there that is sure to cause conversation to occur. It can also be looked at as a sentence to incite and then madts would be tossed into the troll category. His normal process for starting a conversation may not be yours.

Nwbusa, I have added numbers 1 and 2 to my original post. You may have missed the attempted differentiation between societal normal and personal normal. What I am trying to say is that a person may be well within his or her personal normal and outside of societal normal and then be branded as troll, troublemaker, etc. As an example, my personal normal is to research, research and research prior to asking for help. When I see posts that ask questions like “what is the setup time for wood glue” I kind of go crazy since the question is far outside of my personal normal.

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#8 posted 12-21-2012 02:58 AM

I’m normal. Everybody else is a fruitcake.

-- Visualize whirled peas

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#9 posted 12-21-2012 03:02 AM

Muleskinner, part of being normal, both personal and societal, is humor. However, how can you possibly think yourself normal with a name like muleskinner?

-- Have fun and laugh alot. Life can end at any moment. You old guys out there know what I mean...

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#10 posted 12-21-2012 03:08 AM

he raises a valid point muleskinner ,as for me i know im not normal but know yall aren’t either

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#11 posted 12-21-2012 03:38 AM

Here is an example of abnormal.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=76251

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#12 posted 12-21-2012 03:46 AM

seems like a political web site to me DKV and they are usealy not normal

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#13 posted 12-21-2012 04:08 AM

You had me going DKV, thank God for wikipedia,lol

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#14 posted 12-21-2012 04:09 AM

I don’t see why my name should impinge on my normality. My brothers, Pettifogger and Sandhog, are rather envious of it.

Oh, and DKV, thanks for that link. I think I’ve just been called.

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#15 posted 12-21-2012 06:44 AM

I get what you are saying DKV. Here are a couple of points to consider.

1) Behavior, whether normal or otherwise, receives different treatment in an online forum than it does in day to day life (meaning “real world”, face to face dealing with people). Without getting into the deeper psychological aspects, people can—and often do—act differently in an online forum than they might otherwise act in the real world.

2) To some extent, those that spend enough time in an online community like LJs develop reputations, relationships, etc. based largely on the persona they create and maintain within that community. And, unlike the real world, if one’s online forum reputation gets too tarnished then it is simplicity itself to either create a new identity with a different persona, or just… fade away. It would seem to me that this ability to change/mask/alter identities plays a significant role in what people accept as “normal” online behavior.

-- John, BC, Canada

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