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Forum topic by Tedster posted 12-14-2012 06:20 AM 923 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Tedster

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12-14-2012 06:20 AM

Looks like I might be able to squeeze a decent bandsaw in to my budget pretty soon, and I’d like to get a decent resaw capacity. One that is built with 10” or 12” depth of cut will probably not be within budget, so I’m thinking one that will accept a riser block. What I’m wondering, however, is how does one compensate for the height adjustment of the blade guide. I mean, if the riser block adds, say, 4” to 6” to the depth of cut, wouldn’t the upper blade guide have to be modified accordingly? Also, would the cost of that, along with the riser block, end up costing so much I could just buy the bigger saw to start with?

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#1 posted 12-14-2012 06:29 AM

I added a 6 inch block to my delta 14. It came from delta via or amazon, under a hundred bucks, and came with all the parts to make it safe. So now I can rip up to 11 7/8 on it.

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#2 posted 12-14-2012 06:34 AM

Thanks Pete. By “all the parts to make it safe”, is that to say it comes with parts to modify the blade guide height adjustment slider thing? Sorry, I don’t know what it’s called :)

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#3 posted 12-14-2012 06:43 AM

I purchased a 14 inch grizzly and the riser kit. The riser kit included a replacement height adjustment bar for the upper blade guides and the blade guard so that height was completely adjustable from high to low. I believe most riser block kits include this Ted.

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#4 posted 12-14-2012 01:22 PM

I have the Grizzly G0555 saw and they sell a 6” riser kit that comes with the steel riser, the longer blade guards for the right and left sides and a longer (105”) blade. I made the one for mine and I just don’t have the longer blade guard on the right side. I have exposed blade above the regular guard but never get near there. I have resawed 11” maple on there with a 1/4-10 pitch blade. It is a nice saw, I love it!!

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Tedster

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#5 posted 12-14-2012 03:51 PM

Thanks for the info, guys. I guess it only makes sense the riser would come with the blade guard, but I needed to hear (read) it from someone who knows.

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waho6o9

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#6 posted 12-14-2012 04:03 PM

Carter bearings help with deflection of the blade and was
a great addition to my old band saw.

I know this doesn’t answer your question Ted but it’s something
you might want to consider. Good luck on your purchase and you’re
going to love having a decent band saw.

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vonhagen

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#7 posted 12-14-2012 04:37 PM

ted go to woodweb and check out the machine listings, you could find an old oliver or northfield my other choice would be a rockwell 20. my davis and wells 20 is awesum but hard to find. as far as blades i only use 2 the starrett woodpecker and the lenox trimaster. not a big fan of carter guides on these late model machines because the originals are much better when rebuilt but they are so well built that you may find they are just fine. you will notice that on all these older machines that there is only one bearing on the rear at 90 degrees to the blade and carbide inserts on the sides and this is the best system imo, time tested, mine are 60 years old and i just pressed in new bearings from davis and wells and replaced the carbide blocks with new ones. i think it was about 60 bucks and the saw cuts like a dream. as far as bandsaws go bigger and older is better.

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#8 posted 12-14-2012 05:38 PM

Ted, have you ever thought about a build?

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Jamie

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#9 posted 12-14-2012 05:47 PM

I bought my riser block kit from HF ,and it came with every necessary parts.

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#10 posted 12-14-2012 05:56 PM

Carter riser kits are great for the bandsaw.


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DS

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#11 posted 12-14-2012 06:36 PM

I found my 19” Shop Fox BS on craigslist for $400 in decent shape. I see the big ones for sale about once or twice a year in Phoenix. If you have patience, that would be the way to go.

The larger footprint in my garage shop isn’t much more than the 14” machine anyway. It cuts large stock like a dream too. A 143” blade has plenty of time to cool down the teeth between strokes and so deflection and heat is never an issue.

My Dad has a Delta 14” BS and he comes to my house to use my 19” BS when he wants to resaw anything serious—if that tells you anything.

Of course, I go to his house to use his Jet 1642EVS lathe to turn anything substantial—it works out.

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#12 posted 12-14-2012 06:45 PM

I have an older Delta with riser and two speed gearbox (for metal or wood cutting) that I paid $60 for. A good tool is always within budget if you snoop around and aren’t in a huge hurry.

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#13 posted 12-15-2012 01:31 AM

I tried to start a new thread with my question but I couldn’t. Maybe I’m too new but either way this is probably a good thread to ask it in.

I currently have a Grizzly 555LX that I like very much. I generally never resaw over 5 or 6” and this saw does it with ease, much better than an old Delta I used to have. Occasionally I may have a need to resaw 7-8” boards and will need the riser kit. However I’ve heard some folks dislike riser kits on 14” saws because they feel the frame isn’t up to the task of the extra tension the longer/wider blade requires and wheel alignment issues. Anyone have any experience with this saw or have opinions in general about riser kits?

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