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Forum topic by RussellAP posted 12-13-2012 01:45 AM 1813 views 0 times favorited 25 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-13-2012 01:45 AM

I have been making rather clumsy dowel drilling guides for my dowels which is a 90 degree block with three holes or four as drilling guides for the dowel placement. I saw on on line that went for 310$ but I think someone can make one like that for a reasonable price.

I can’t pre-drill the wood before assembly, it’s on corners so I need to do it after the glue has been put on and it’s clamped up or even after it dries.

What do you use to line up your dowels?

I didn’t realize how many different dowel jigs there are. Here is what I need it for.

I want to put three dowels in the corner from either the front or the side.

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#1 posted 12-13-2012 01:50 AM

It doesn’t handle thicker woods, but this is my favorite tool for that.

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#2 posted 12-13-2012 01:57 AM

My Stanley Dowelling Jig. Nothing better IMHO.

Cheers!

-- Dave; Lansing, Kansas

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#3 posted 12-13-2012 02:03 AM

I’ve used one like this for 20years. I think they can be found much cheaper though.

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#4 posted 12-13-2012 02:11 AM

I thought about one of those Don, but the holes I need to drill on on a corner so I need something hand held or that I can clamp on, even though a clamp gets in the way of at least one hole making it twice the job it should be.

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#5 posted 12-13-2012 02:20 AM

That is why I like the jig I posted Russ. It clamps both boards at the same time and misalignment in tricky places is virtually impossible.

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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#6 posted 12-13-2012 02:21 AM

If you need flush corners in 3/4” stock for cabinets
and things like that, the jigs like the Jessem and the
Dowelmax are good investments.

I have the Jessem and while it is kind of slow going
compared to biscuits or pocket screws, the
flush corner tolerances are way tighter.

Lots of jigs can do a decent job with frames but
cannot do carcase joinery well.

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#7 posted 12-13-2012 03:48 AM

David, here is the application I need it for and why I don’t think it’s the right one.

I need a jig that can get me three dowels into the corner coming from the front or the side.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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#8 posted 12-13-2012 03:51 AM

Loren, Ideally I’d love to see a corner clamp that has doweling jigs built in. Wouldn’t that be a cool thing?

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#9 posted 12-13-2012 04:43 AM

Why not just make a custom block out of scrap hardwood?

Drill it out straight on a drill press. Then add a fence for the appropriate setback. Clamp it on with bar or pipe clamps.

Cheers!

-- Dave; Lansing, Kansas

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#10 posted 12-13-2012 04:52 AM

The guide can be used for 90 degree joints as well as T joints. It is pretty versatile.

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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#11 posted 12-15-2012 09:37 PM

Make a jig from any wood, even a 2×4. Drill the holes in a drill press. size will be to accomodate hardened steel drill bushings for the drill size you want to use. http://www.mcmaster.com/#cadinlnord/8492a242/=klvox0

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#12 posted 12-16-2012 03:10 AM

Russel- I have used Firehouse’s method and it works great!

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#13 posted 12-16-2012 04:09 AM

Are you trying to put dowels in to an existing piece from
the outside?

Doweling frames is one thing, but doweling panels
is a different application.

If you want to dowel with flush corners within .5mm tolerances
for casework, you are not going to get it by going with
a cheap solution. The Jessem is pretty good and the
build of the jig is very robust.

I may not know something though…. perhaps there is a
decent sub-$100 doweling jig that can make flush
joints in carcase corners I don’t know about.

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#14 posted 12-16-2012 04:53 AM

You say you can wait until after the glue dries and then put dowels in from the outside – so why couldn’t you just drill through the face of one panel into the edge of the other, apply glue to the hole and the dowel, and drive it in – no jig necessary? You’d only need something to make sure the drill goes in squarely. Or am I not understanding?

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#15 posted 12-16-2012 04:58 AM

This is where only $ increases performance. The cheap dowel jigs work but the expensive ones do so much better and at places where the cheap ones won’t fit.

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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