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Forum topic by dahenley posted 12-13-2012 12:55 AM 993 views 1 time favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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dahenley

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12-13-2012 12:55 AM

i purchased an 8” 20TPI W.Tyzack, Sons & Turner No 120 saw off Ebay. it came in looking amazing and straight as an arrow. (it was said to come from a elderly persons collection (and wasnt used much).

it looks amazing, and the teeth look good. but how do i tell if it is a Rip or a crosscut saw?
the teeth are so small, its hard to look at without a set of cheaters (glasses)

is there a way at looking at the teeth to tell?i know a crosscut has alternating pointed teeth and a rip saw has alternating flat top teeth, but will i be able to tell this by visual or is there another way to tell?

Thank you!!!
and let me know if you need more information or something…. (there isnt much information on these brand saws…... so its hard to do research on them)

Thanks
David!

-- David Henley


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#1 posted 12-13-2012 01:02 AM

If its 20tpi is probably a crosscut. Here is a site on sharpening but gives a good description of the difference in the teeth. http://www.vintagesaws.com/library/primer/sharp.html

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#2 posted 12-13-2012 01:04 AM

And here is some history http://lumberjocks.com/Brit/blog

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#3 posted 12-13-2012 01:04 AM

David, if the teeth are so small that you cannot tell how they are cut, try cutting on a piece of wood.

If it is a rip cut, the shavings will look like they were cut with a chisel on the rip cut with the grain and on the crosscut they will be jagged and the cut will have tear out cutting across the grain.

-- Mike

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dahenley

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#4 posted 12-13-2012 01:15 AM

Don, i would have to agree with you on being a crosscut saw. (confirmed by the first link you gave me) {and i think its where i got some information a long time ago, so thanks for that refreshment!}

Paratrooper 34, that is the quick information i was looking for! (if i didnt have the links above, that would have been my quick number 2) ill be cutting with is soon, so im going to try that technique anyway!

-- David Henley

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#5 posted 12-13-2012 01:26 AM

20tpi is most likely crosscut. Look and see if there is fleam filed into the teeth, if it has fleam then it is crosscut.

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#6 posted 12-13-2012 01:36 AM

I own that exact same saw, No. 120 purchased in late 1970’s from Leichtung Co as a “Miter Back Saw”. I had queried Glen Huey of Poplar Woodworking Magazine as to whether it was a dovetail saw and how W. Tyzack and Sons compared to newer saws such as Veritas, or Cosman.. His answer was being so many tpi and is so short, it was most probably ment as a dovetail. LJ’r Scott Tinker just recently resharpened it for me and verified that it is a crosscut toothed and was in fine shape, but works extermely well for hand cutting dovetails with the grain.

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#7 posted 12-13-2012 02:14 PM

I also have that saw (and its bigger, 12” brother). It’s crosscut.
Good score btw. That Tyzack line is pretty respectable IMO.

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