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Ok, after a year or so of working with an old Delta jointer, I’ve finally grown tired of not getting square cuts. After some research and testing I have realized that the outfeed table is warped and actually creates a “twist” in my lumber. I guess that’s what I get for buying used on Craigslist. But, I am now in the market for a new jointer. I have been looking around and I’m not sure which one. I have a budget of around $1,000. Any suggestions?

So far I’m torn between the Grizzly G0604X 6” Parallelogram Jointer:
http://www.grizzly.com/products/6-Parallelogram-Jointer/G0604X

The Jet 6” Deluxe Jointer with QS Knives, Model JJ-6CSDX:
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2063487/24172/jet-6-deluxe-jointer-with-qs-knives-model-jj6csdx.aspx

And the Powermatic 54A:
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2005892/18206/powermatic-6-jointer-w-qs-knives-model-54a.aspx

I’m relatively new to this and I don’t have the space for anything bigger than one of these three. I like the idea of the parallelogram ways, but I wonder if it works as well in practice as it does in theory. Please help.

Thanks!


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#1 posted 617 days ago

I know there’s lots of adrenaline flowing when the thought of a new tool comes up. That’s to be enjoyed.

But: I am moved to ask, have you investigated having the outfeed table milled flat by a machine shop? I have never done this so I don’t even know that it is possible. That said, if it could happen, I’m guessing you’d be out a lot less than a grand, the remainder of which could be spent on….(let the adrenaline flow again).

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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#2 posted 617 days ago

...or even a Shelix head for the ol’ Delta?

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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#3 posted 617 days ago

My experience with jet tools is not a positive one for tools that use to be considered a good mid-range choice I found they do not hold up well to nominal use that even a hobbyist would expect. I’ve also seen and read about Powermatic not being the tools they use to be.Since I have had good service from all of my Grizzly tools including my12” spiral head jointer, it would be a grizzly jointer and I would recommend a upgrade from the one you have listed this one has a spiral head a vast improvement over straight blades and for just a little more you could ether get a 8” jointer or a spiral head 6”Jointer. from the one you have listed.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/6-X-46-Jointer-w-Spiral-Cutterhead/G0452Z

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#4 posted 617 days ago

I just saw this post .
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/3098

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#5 posted 617 days ago

FWIW, I found my 8in G0593 on CL and have been happy with it. That said, I do not think you need to break the bank to get a good jointer.

Sounds like your jointer may have been dropped or had something dropped on it that created that twist. I know cast iron is brittle but..

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#6 posted 617 days ago

I have a Delta 8 inch jointer and found the fence was bowed and twisted. I took it to a machine shop and they got it dead flat for under a hundred bucks.

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#7 posted 617 days ago

I have had good luck with my Jet 6” jointer. I have the older blue model, but I think it is basically the same. It makes straight, square lumber all day long. My only limitation is capacity. I often want to joint a 10-12” board. I can do this, but I have to break out the planer sled and take a few extra steps.
The Grizzly looks nice too.

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#8 posted 617 days ago

Cast iron can also be filed and scraped by hand. It is really
not very hard metal.

While I can relate to the desire to discard an old machine
that has a defect, I’ve also found that some defects
are correctible if you care to.

A smaller jointer can also be taken to a machine
shop and milled flat without taking the tables off
on a mill with a “modest” work envelope 48”-60”
wide.

Check out this new 12” jointer being auctioned right now:

http://www.machinerymax.com/detail.asp?id=1914&n=NEW-LOBO-JT-0012-JOINTER-RESERVE-MET

It’s going to be a good deal for somebody. Freight can
be a dealbreaker of course. Such machinery acquisition deals
are not that scarce if you keep your eyes open.

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#9 posted 616 days ago

1050 buys this

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#10 posted 616 days ago

buys this I mean

-- Stevo, work in tha city woodshop in the country

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#11 posted 615 days ago

For a very small amount more I’d buy the Grizzly 490X with the spiral head. Maybe I’m biased because I own it but it works extremely well.

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#12 posted 615 days ago

Is the outfeed table actually twisted or are the two tables not coplanar to each other? It would take a major tumble for that table to get twisted. Some older Craftsman (King Seeley) tables have gib screws so you can adjust tables up or down, doubt the Delta does as I think it is machined flat after assembly.

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#13 posted 615 days ago

I’d start by checking the outfeed table on your delta. if it’s flat length wise and cross wise, then check for parallel to infeed – if parallel, than something might be not setup with your cutter head. I doubt a twisted outfeed table is that twisted thta it can induce twist into your lumber. when was the last time you aligned your jointer?

Edit: even buying new – you’d still have to align the new jointer. might as well try to align current one and save the $1k for a better use if possible (unless it’s really messed up)

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#14 posted 615 days ago

I think I have to side with PurpLev…but you only say “older Delta” in your original post.

what model do you have? Delta used to put out some very high quality tools (and I say “used to” solely because I haven’t bought any for years…thus I can’t opine on what they sell now but inherent in that statement is that I have been happy with the Delta brand, realizing that what I get pretty much lines up with what I paid).

if you are talking about that little benchtop unit they used to sell (and probably still do…not knocking it…it’s fine for budget users with limited space), then realize you are moving into a real tool. As far as I can tell they all come from the same factories and differ only in color.

pending a reply, I’ll also echo PurpLev in that your $1k might be better spent on other tools…my jointer doesn’t seem to get used much anymore since I have a decent table saw with a decent fence and use good blades.

just MHO

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