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pendledad

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577 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: jointer bandsaw tablesaw lathe

This is a new topic that is a continuation of my first post about a table saw purchase.

Now that year end is here, my budget looks like it is going to be $2k for my tools. I’ve been preparing for this by running a sub-panel to the garage with a full 100amp 20 breaker box (ate $3,200 of the budget :-( ). I just sold all of my old craftsman bandsaws and table saws, so I have a literally clean slate to work with.

I’m looking to get setup with the bigger equipment now so I can tackle any projects that come up. I was originally thinking about the Grizzly G0690 ~$1450 shipped. This would leave me about $550 for one other tool. I can get a 6” jointer G0452P or a G055LX BS from grizzly for that much. But would my funds better be spent on three tools?

The grizzly G0715P hybrid saw + G0452P jointer + G0555LX BS + mobile bases would be $2,011 … minus my 5% coupon … would be ~$1,900.

Or do I get the G0690 and one other tool? I’m having a tough time with this … help.

P.S.
I am open for all tool suggestions … maybe a lathe? I’m always fascinated by turning and my wife mentioned she would love to get into it. (She saw a live demo once and got the bug).

Thoughts?


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chrisstef

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#1 posted 577 days ago

If you can swing a tablesaw, jointer, and band saw in one swoop youre doing well. A planer instead of a bandsaw might be an option depending on how you purchase your lumber.

If you go the used route you might be able to get the bandsaw, tablesaw, jointer, planer, and a lathe with enough cashola left over for parts, blades, up grades and such.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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EEngineer

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#2 posted 577 days ago

You know, chrisstef brings up a good point though you may not want to hear it.

The tools are only the beginning. Table saw, for instance: I have yet to hear anyone that was happy with the blade that shipped with their table saw. A decent blade will run at least $50 and maybe $100. Can you live with a GP blade or do you want separate crosscut and rip blades? X2. Ditto the bandsaw, probably no extra costs for the jointer. Lathe? Those tools aren’t cheap either, although for practice a simple $35 set from HF might suffice.

You should build some money in the budget for accessories.

-- "Find out what you cannot do and then go do it!"

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knotscott

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#3 posted 577 days ago

The G0715P will probably be be fine, but the G0690 (or G1023RL $1294 shipped) are much beefier saws that will have an easy time of everything you cut. I really doubt you’d ever have any regrets. The TS has always been the heart of my shop….if it is for you too I’d encourage to bite the bullet, cry once, and smile happily ever after.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#4 posted 577 days ago

I’m just going to say I have, on many occasions, given in to the temptation to get a less expensive machine or tool because I could get another tool or item with it. And I’ve been at it for over 50 years. I can’t think of one single time I did not regret that choice eventually.

Now, from an engineers perspective, I see the Grizzly 715 as a style of saw similar to the Ridgid 4512. They may not be identical but they are of the same design concept. I have the Craftsman 21833, which is identical to the Ridgid. I hate my decision even though I got it for $409. I would be way more than 4 times happier if I had a Grizzly 690. BUT, I’d be even more unhappy if I had paid $700 to $800 for a 715 and still had something similar to the Ridgid/Craftsman.

If I had the option to get a nice new Griz 690 and give back my band saw and jointer and planer I’d do it in a heartbeat.

That other stuff can always be found at way less than 1/2 retail price on Craig’s List. A new cabinet saw with warranty, and riving knife, and good fence and guards is something you won’t ever regret. IMHO anyway.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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MT_Stringer

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#5 posted 577 days ago

I have been looking long and hard for a table saw. I have finally decided on the Grizzly 1023RL. Much more than my Craftsman, which has been loyal for many years and never broke down. The Grizzly will be my last table saw.

I have limited space in which to work so it looks like I will get the one with the basic setup. The router table extension and the model with the 53 inch fence rails are too much for the space i have to set up the saw. Hopefully, I will get my order placed before the end of the year.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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Cosmicsniper

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#6 posted 577 days ago

I’d get the 3hp cabinet saw. The rest of it can purchase other items of priority.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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a1Jim

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#7 posted 577 days ago

This has to be the 12000th time someone on LJs ask this question so besides the answers you get here you might do a search and see what other threads had to offer. I usually find that Knotscott has very good insight on table saws and blades along with many other types of tools. I agree that a table saw should be number one on your list ,next I would suggest a chop saw,router,a small set of router bits, then a planner,a jointer,band saw. It would be all but impossible to make the whole list with $2000 unless you buy all used tools and even then it could be a challenge. I wish you well and hope you enjoy Woodworking.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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John

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#8 posted 577 days ago

I think it depends on how you work. I have an oldish contractor type delta tablesaw and it’s plenty for the way I work. I use my bandsaw and planer way more, and don’t need a jointer because I do those operations with a handplane. It cost just as much as a powered planer, but it takes up a lot less room in the shop and is easier to adjust! And don’t forget a decent dust collector. If you wind up with allergies or asthma in ten years, you won’t have a lot of use for your woodworking machinery.

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James

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#9 posted 577 days ago

You spent all that money getting the 100 amp sub panel put in, it would seem like such a waste to to not get 220v tools. No question get G0690, a couple of very nice blades and a really nice dado stack and you will never find yourself starting a “what tablesaw should I buy” thread again.

James

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pendledad

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#10 posted 575 days ago

Let’s assume that I have either the G1023RL or the G0690 in my cart.

To fill my cart and budget, I can add one of the following:
G0555LX BS + riser block
G0452P jointer

Because I’ve never owned or used a jointer, I don’t know how often I would use it. I’m guessing it is one of those things that once you have, you use it all the time. It would certainly open up some capabilities for me in terms of rough cut boards vs s4s.

I have had a bandsaw, and I really liked it. But I’m guessing just like the TS, a bigger BS would be better than a smaller one. The G0513P 2hp bandsaw is just a bit over the budget currently, so I’d have to settle for the G0555 versions with riser blocks.

Any suggestions?

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a1Jim

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#11 posted 575 days ago

I think it depends on what you make or are going to make as to how often a person uses their jointer. I used mine all the time ,but some folks who like hand tools use hand planes instead. I like the ease of a jointer for face planning and edge jointing.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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sikrap

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#12 posted 575 days ago

I think it is very dependent on the type of work you do. Personally, I think that a jointer (and planer) allows you to buy rough cut stock which is a lot less expensive than buying S4S. I have a bandsaw (G0555 w/riser), but I rarely use it. Other than resawing, I haven’t found anything that I need a band saw for that I can’t do with my jigsaw. Of course, most of what I make is cabinet type stuff, so I don’t have a big need for a band saw.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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Loren

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#13 posted 575 days ago

Depends on the kind of work you aspire to do
and the square footage of your work space.

Knowing what I know now, if I was starting out
and buying power tools I would not make a cabinet
saw a high priority purchase.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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dhazelton

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#14 posted 575 days ago

Used. Used. Used. This Boston CL ad has some really nice vintage equipment way under your budget. Huge bandsaw, nice old Delta DP…the table saw is 3 phase but a Tannewitz 3 hp for $450, so a VFD adds a couple of hundred but still!

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/tls/3472564028.html

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MT_Stringer

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#15 posted 575 days ago

I bought the G0555 band saw (no riser as of yet). I use it to cut anything that has a curve like cutting boards (animals) or rounding the corners of boards for projects. Depends on what you build.

I also bought a used Jet 6 inch jointer off CL for $300. I use it all the time mainly for cleaning off edges to make sure they are square to the board.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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