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Forum topic by lizardhead posted 12-07-2012 10:31 PM 682 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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lizardhead

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12-07-2012 10:31 PM

I was watching Border Wars and they always boast of the dollar value of confiscated bales of Mariguana. It occured to me that the value given is the final value on the street. What does that have to do with the war. The value of the Mariguana is the value that the Cartel has lost in production, profit loss is not a kill, only the value of production is a kill. So of the total amount of Mariguana (in pounds or tons) that cross the border coming from Mexico MINUS the amount confiscated would give you a better idea of how effective the war is on drugs, or at least the Mariguana portion. My bet is that a very small percentage of Mariguana is confiscated. Probably about less than 10%. If a typical manufacturing business in the US profit loss was less than 10% they would consider it a win. My question to you fellow woodworkers is does anyone know of a website where that kind of information is given?

-- Lizardhead---Yeah but it's a dry heat--Tempe, Az


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thedude50

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#1 posted 12-07-2012 11:12 PM

the estimates are always on the high end soon the weed will be legal in all states. We can deal with real crime like child molesters and hard drug pushers like coke and crank. I am a republican but I am pro legalization. I am even considering moving to Washington state to be a legal user for my pain. I hold a medical card for California I have only smoked two joints in the past few years even though I hold a card. I only use it when the medicine my Dr gives me wont stop the pain. I have not taken a hit in over 6 months. I get mine up in the bay area as the squares here in Fresno wont let us have a co op . I think their ban is un lawful but I am poor and dont have the money to fight them. I have asked normal to help those in pain should not have to drive for hours or be forced to tend their own gardens to have pot for their illness. Then local law enforcement has even banned outdoor gardens making it a windfall for the power companies too much politics if you ask me .

-- when I am not on Lumberjocks I am on @ http://thisoldworkshop.com where we allow free speech

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lizardhead

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#2 posted 12-08-2012 12:40 AM

Ok well good for you but what does that have to do with this post. The post is not about wheather or not you agree or disagree with any laws. Or wheather you use dope or not.

-- Lizardhead---Yeah but it's a dry heat--Tempe, Az

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#3 posted 12-08-2012 01:47 AM

Dave, if you did find a site that had figures, I don’t know that you could believe them. The government only tells us what they want us to hear and that is usually NOT the TRUTH. There is big money in lobbying to keep the drug trade going in this country and that is why the border is still wide open. They catch a few to put in the paper but the real numbers would totally freak out the public. NAFTA made the transportation easier.
There is no way the border patrol can check all those semis coming across the border or the ships unloading at our ports.

I believe if we wanted to wage a war on drugs, we should bring our military back home to guard our borders instead of dying in countries where they hate us and the governments get rich on our foreign aid that we so stupidly send them…................Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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derosa

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#4 posted 12-08-2012 03:51 AM

I doubt you can find those numbers or even come close. First the government wants to make all the paranoid people who think that weed is the big evil gateway drug feel safer by inflating the numbers. Truth is even on the shows they may not even be giving a realistic number depending on the type of weed, they only do a basic math. Dime bag sells for x amount, there are y amounts of bags in a bail, so xy= value. But if it is a grower that just plants his pot on the hill side in large quantities and only does basic care then low cost with low value, and not a lot of damage to the dealer. If it is coming from a place that is using top grade seeds that relies on developing hybrids and focuses on soil makeup or hydro then there is a relatively high cost due to a need for skilled workers, fertilizer, energy, and research and the bust will really hurt the grower. Up side for the grower is that the weed can sell for 4-5x what the cheap stuff will, the feds probably undervalue this. Cause of all the variables they just like to say so much lbs so there is so much value.

Hilarity for me is when the show a large number of agents standing around a pit where they are destroying the drugs getting a serious contact high in the process.

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse

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thedude50

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#5 posted 12-08-2012 11:22 PM

I answered your lame question in the first sentence. sorry to cloud your mind with dope talk . All the estimates are done based on the dea guidelines for estimating values that and the irs guidelines are how the cops come up with the huge estimates of dollar values. you should be able to find a press release on these values by talking to someone at the dea or the irs

On a side note Marijuana is now California’s largest cash crop it is values by the dea at 15 trillion dollars annually. Believe me this is another over inflated number

-- when I am not on Lumberjocks I am on @ http://thisoldworkshop.com where we allow free speech

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#6 posted 12-08-2012 11:29 PM

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/the-pot-republic/marijuana-economics/

this took google 10 seconds to find I hope you find your answer here

-- when I am not on Lumberjocks I am on @ http://thisoldworkshop.com where we allow free speech

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