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runswithscissors

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12-04-2012 10:34 AM

I recently took a chance on an old Foley Belsaw 6” planer-molder (model 455) because I’ve been wanting a dedicaterd molding machine. Only paid $80 for it, so I figure I’m not out too much if I can’t make this work. I have no interest in using it as a planer, as I already have a good planer. The seller didn’t think it could function as a molder, even though it says “Planer Molder” right on the cover. I’m looking for two things: (1) a user’s manual. I’ve tried the various sites I could find, but no luck. Any suggestions? (2) a source of molding knives. Right now I’m looking for a crown knife, small one, 2 1/4” or so. I’ve found a possible source, but have no way to be sure they will mount satisfactorily in this unit. It’s a 2 knife cutterrhead. I do know that the Shop Fox knives won’t work (and I believe they are the same as Williams Hussey). This is where the owner’s manual could be of help.

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#1 posted 12-04-2012 06:50 PM

W&H and Shop Fox both use the hole pattern, Is your cutter head corrugated? My guess it is not and just uses the flat Steel… Post a pic of the cutter head slots if you can so I can help more….

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#2 posted 12-04-2012 06:56 PM

ditto what Gshepard said.

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#3 posted 12-04-2012 08:04 PM

Cutters are available for that model from Foley-United.

Manual:

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=4618

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#4 posted 01-03-2013 01:42 AM

Any updates on if this unit worked out for you?

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#5 posted 01-03-2013 01:55 AM

I’m afraid it didn’t work out. The machine seems to be set up to used the 1” cutters like on a TS molding head. I was hoping for one piece cutters for making crown molding, amongst other things. I know that Williams & Hussey (and Grizzly with their Shop Fox clone) have such cutters, but they won’t work on the F. Belsaw. I think I saw the planer knives (very narrow, fit into a special holder) on Ebay one time, but haven’t been able to find them since. So now I have a very heavy paper weight (Though tiny, it’s a lot of cast iron). May try to sell it, give it away, or bury it in the back yard. As for the loss of time and money, I’ll get over it.

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#6 posted 04-14-2016 01:29 PM

Do you still have this or is it 6 feet under?
Thanks,
Roger

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#7 posted 04-14-2016 01:47 PM

Runswithscissors,
I used to be a dealer for RBI who made the same machine and all parts are interchangeable. I have a molding head shaft with both types of cutter holders as well as a sanding head to make it a drum sander. I’ve come close to throwing the stuff away, but I do still have it. I am not aware of a 6” machine, but 8” were made.

Both types of cutter holders means that the Sears 1” molding knives in triplicate can be used and the other is a 3” (?) block for a single smooth knife. The larger knives are held in very securely with a wedge. Knives are readily available even if you need a custom knife. I don’t think I have any knives for it. RBI still exists and parts are still available, but one of the neat things about these old things is that most parts can be easily machined or obtained outside the mfr/dealer chain.

I hope it can be of use to you or someone. I’ll send it for the shipping. This appears to be a very old post…

DanK

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#8 posted 04-14-2016 08:21 PM

Thanks for the reply; however, I have since moved the machine on.

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#9 posted 04-14-2016 10:20 PM

Do you think the new owner would be interested?

DanK

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#10 posted 04-14-2016 10:55 PM

That was quite a while ago, and I have no idea how to contact him. Sorry.

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