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12-01-2012 03:06 PM

i was looking at the jet planer/moulder for $500, but just found out it is 2hrs away…too far. now i just ran across this one http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/3446377250.html a 12in belsaw planer/moulder. says he bought it in 98. It’s smaller than i was looking for, but seems like a good deal. i don’t know much about belsaw though. what do you guys think? i have a delta that i could sell and get a couple hundred out of if i included the stand. thanks!


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#1 posted 12-01-2012 03:10 PM

I have the older model, and don’t have the molding attachment, but you can find a bunch of reference material in my blog series. http://lumberjocks.com/donwilwol/blog/series/5401

$750 seems a little high, but I’m not sure how much they typically go for.

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#2 posted 12-01-2012 03:14 PM

Another deal to compare to:
http://lumberjocks.com/topics/43777#first-new
Yes, price seems high, especially if there are no accessories. But it is a strong machine and pretty well built. I’ve occasionally wished for a 15”, but looking at costs, the want goes away. If I haven’t needed it in 35 years, why do I “need” it now? :)
DanK

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#3 posted 12-01-2012 03:29 PM

thanks! the reason i thought it was a great deal was i saw one on ebay for almost $3000. it was a 90’s model, but still in the box. the more i look at the used prices, the less of a good deal it seems. i forget if he was including any blades, but i will ask.

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#4 posted 12-01-2012 03:36 PM

just because it can do moldings
(the knives can get to be expensive)

the question remains
do you need to do that

for that kind of money
you can get a good planer
(maybe a tad more)
that has a warranty and backup service

this 15 for instance

then you can add a spiral cutter head
as the need arises

unless you plan on doing production work
you may not need the molding side very much

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#5 posted 12-01-2012 03:40 PM

Wait a minute Shelly. You wrote Belsaw. The add is for a Powermatic. I wouldn’t think that would be a bad price for a Powermatic. The Belsaw is an upper medium end piece of equipment. Powermatic is much higher end.

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#6 posted 12-01-2012 03:47 PM

it is a belsaw, made by powermatic is how he read it when i called him

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#7 posted 12-01-2012 03:49 PM

at this time i do not need the molding part for myself, although i do know alot of people remodeling that i’m sure i could make some molding for. i would eventually need it for myself as we plan to build a house in the next few years…

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#8 posted 12-01-2012 03:50 PM

right now i would prefer a larger planer, but i thought if this was a great deal then i should jump on it, but the more i look into it, the less of a good deal it seems.

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#9 posted 12-01-2012 03:54 PM

huh, another Belsaw twist. I didn’t know powermatic made them, but it looks like they were actually owned by powermatic. http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=86

Looks like that machine was probably made in the 90’s (1990’s that is). I have no idea what that information does for you. The picture kind of sucks, so it may be worth a visit, and an offer.

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#10 posted 12-01-2012 04:01 PM

Unless they are remodeling historical buildings, i doubt making molding would be cost effective. I paid $39 for mine, so if it dies today (god I hope it don’t) i’ve got my money out of it. It is a great planer, but to be honest, at $750, you may be better with the grizzly 15”. But as I said, no harm is saying, “All I have to spend is $450”.

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#11 posted 12-01-2012 04:14 PM

Powermatic bought Belsaw’s planer business at some point.

Powermatic sold the planer for awhile.

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#12 posted 12-01-2012 04:29 PM

The powermatic and the belsaw are actually one and the same and making molding is well worth having it whether its for arcatectural or picture moldings. I have mamy $$$$$$$ tied up in mine in knives.
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#13 posted 12-01-2012 04:48 PM

I asked what was included and this was his reply:
I have crown molding knives. Casing knives. And base trim knives. The planner knives need replaced.Used maybe total of 30 hours. Very good condition. Needs 220 volt outlet. Includes dust hood also. Very heavy bring help and dolley. Includes jigs for trim.

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#14 posted 12-01-2012 05:19 PM

Shelly, what kind of budget are you looking at? I would almost bet the knives alone cost more than the 800 he is asking for…..

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#15 posted 12-01-2012 06:45 PM

I didn’t know Powermatic ever sold these things. For many years I was an RBI dealer in northern IL and I know that RBI made the Belsaw and Craftsman machine for awhile. The parts are largely interchangeable.
I’m not sure why the blades would need to be replaced if there are only 30 hours on them, unless they are badly chipped. Even then, there is plenty of blade to get rid of chips as deep as 1/8”, and the trick of staggering the blades makes the chip strip disappear.
+1 Gshepherd on the knives. The price is looking much more reasonable.
And these are the only machines I’ve seen with enough guts to take 1/4” off an 8” wide oak stick and 1/4” off a 12” wide softwood stick if you care to push it that hard. Unless you are talking huge commercial machines.

DanK

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