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Forum topic by UKCat posted 637 days ago 1367 views 1 time favorited 56 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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637 days ago

I found a 5HP Foley Belsaw 12” planer and it is supposedly in good shape. He is asking $400 for it and said I can run some wood through it to see how it does. It’s about an 1 hour drive and I haven’t seen it. I asked him what model it is and how old it was and I’m still waiting for a reply. If its in decent shape is it worth $400? Would I be better off with a new bench top planer?


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#1 posted 637 days ago

I own one of these machines and it is unusual to find one with 5HP. I believe they were built originally with 3HP 220V single phase. If it is standing upright and runs smoothly it is worth every bit of $400. Check for any accessories that may have been overlooked, molding knives, guides, extra planer knives, etc.
Dank

-- Dan Krager, Olney IL http://www.kragerwoodworking.weebly.com

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#2 posted 637 days ago

I own one of those also but had no idea of the value. I will say a friend looked at mine and said he used to own one of them. He upgraded his to a 5 hp. He and a friend shared it and the friend had it at his home when he got sick and died. My friend mentioned to the widow that the tool was his. She sold it anyway. You are not in the Houston area are you? LOL

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#3 posted 637 days ago

He did say that he checked and replacement knives run $35 to $40 and the ones on the at least need to be sharpened and probably replaced.

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#4 posted 637 days ago

Lol Grandpa. I’m in Ky.

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huff

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#5 posted 637 days ago

I had a Craftsman 12 planer that was built by Foley Belsaw. It was a 5hp, 220volt single phase. It was a real work horse that I used for 20 years before I sold it. I used it in my business so it was used a lot. Nothing unusual to run 100+ bd ft. at a time. The only thing I ever had to do was replaced the infeed and outfeed rollers a couple times over the years. (Sears still handles the parts, or at least they did about 4 years ago). I sold mine for $300 and that was probably too cheap, because it sold immediately.
Great Machine in my book and worth it if it’s in good shape and has been taken care of.

-- John @ http://www.thehuffordfurnituregroup.com

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#6 posted 637 days ago

I have a Belsaw and I really like it.

It will deliver more dimensional consistency in boards
compared to a portable planer. The Belsaw has a
lot of mass and while the feedworks are noisy, the
cut quality is very good. Snipe is usually not a problem
though longer boards need support going in and
out.

Chip collection isn’t its best feature. I have mine as
well enclosed as possible and it still throws chips
out the front. Not a big deal, but not equal
to newer planers.

You can get a lot of different moulding knives
for it and they are inexpensive.

I see them for sale used in my area for $200 and
up. If more woodworkers knew how good they
are, they would be worth more, but as it is
they are an undervalued gem, imo.

$400 is a fair price.

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#7 posted 637 days ago

I also own one and they were 3 HP normally, but I upgraded to the 5 HP model with the saw attachment. Belsaw is still in business without the Foley name and they no longer do the locksmith and tool sharpening products. I bought a new set of blades 2 years ago and they were $55.00 then. The saw blade is an 11/8” arbor and when I got mine carbide was not a choice but mine is 25 years old and I have not replaced the blade and don’t use that feather. Use the planner several times a week and it walks through Pecan (very hard like Hickory of which it is in the family). Yes, it came with 3 sets of moulding cutters and infeed guides but outfeed guides are extra. It needs a 3/4” table riser for moulding, so he may have made one for it and will throw it in as well as the out feed guides. The owner’s Manual is available on line. Their current model is now a 15” machine v.s. the 121/4” of yesteryear.

A strong great machine. A little tedious to set the infeed and out feed rollers for smooth operation, but once set they stay put. The owner’s manual provides the near perfect settings.

-- Russell Pitner Hixson, TN 37343 bassboy40@msn.com

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#8 posted 637 days ago

Seems like a good buy if it’s good shape.

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#9 posted 637 days ago

I have one that’s still a 3hp. Major workhorse. Heads are expensive….like VERY expensive. But, if you are doing production work, it would be worth it. Heads are too high for hobby work…that’s my opinion

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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UKCat

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#10 posted 637 days ago

He said its going to need new blades which sounds like another $50 or so. And it will probably cost $50 in gas to go get it, so probably about $500 all together. I don’t mind paying that much for a planer, but is that going to be better than getting like a dewalt $735 for about the same price? I like the idea of it being a floor model, although floor space is at a premium right now.

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cabmaker

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#11 posted 637 days ago

That planer and the dewalt are light years apart. Go get it !

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huff

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#12 posted 637 days ago

Offer him $350 since it needs new blades. It’s still worth the $400 plus blades, but it won’t hurt to offer less.
The knives that are on it may be able to be resharpened also. I would really check the infeed and outfeed rollers on it also.

-- John @ http://www.thehuffordfurnituregroup.com

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#13 posted 637 days ago

I am going to call and talk to him tomorrow and get a little more info. It sound like these are pretty good planets from what everyone is saying. Just kind of nervous buying this and not knowing much about it. I was thinking at least something new had a warranty. If the rollers are bad would that be a deal breaker for you? Would they be fairly cheap to replace?

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Dan Krager

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#14 posted 637 days ago

+1 cabmaker and +1 huff. I almost bought a second one just to avoid change over time. Don’t get a light weight planer like the portables. This machine is as critical to any shop as a table saw, so you don’t want to compromise any more than the Belsaw already is. You will appreciate its mass.
Bad rollers are not a deal breaker. They are easy to replace and I think I priced some for mine at $18 apiece, but that was a while ago. The rollers don’t have to be perfect to work adequately either. Unless the rubber is torn more than 25% of the way across, you’re probably gonna be OK for a while.
These machines mostly use consumable parts readily available at a good hardware, farm supply, or woodworking store. I’ve owned my machine for 35 plus years, replaced the rollers once, and am on the second set of blades. It sees hundreds of bd ft per month and if you are careful to distribute feed wear (like any planer or sander) things will last a long, long time. I’m offering to sharpen those blades for you for shipping costs if they need it. I’ve learned that you can stone the blades in place several times before removing them. They are a pain to reset without a special gauge that measures protrusion. But that is the trade off for being able to extend the blades until there is safety to consider.
DanK

-- Dan Krager, Olney IL http://www.kragerwoodworking.weebly.com

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huff

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#15 posted 637 days ago

+1 Dan, I would not be afraid of that machine if it’s in any kind of shape at all.

-- John @ http://www.thehuffordfurnituregroup.com

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