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Forum topic by TopamaxSurvivor posted 11-30-2012 04:23 AM 1894 views 0 times favorited 25 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-30-2012 04:23 AM

Topic tags/keywords: woodpeckers straddle squares

Are they worth it or not? http://www.woodpeck.com/ottstraddlesquare.html?et_mid=591914&rid=104964793

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence


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#1 posted 11-30-2012 04:44 AM

I can’t think of one time I had to mark both faces and the edge or end grain at the same time. I do have to mark on one face and one edge or end grain section at the same time. I have a straddle square that I bought for about 7 bucks for that. Other folks have commented that I might have been wasting money there as well as they use door hinges. I think it is a neat concept, but would rather spend the 35 bucks on one of their story sticks instead.

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#2 posted 11-30-2012 04:48 AM

It won’t do anything more than a 6” combination square. I don’t have room for both in my shop apron.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#3 posted 11-30-2012 05:44 AM

Depends on whether you’d rather spend your dough on
tools or wood.

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#4 posted 11-30-2012 05:45 AM

Nah…...don’t waste your time or money on them things….They sure are not worth that price…..4” or 6” square will get the job done…...You could prolly make a jig in your shop that would serve the same purpose…

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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#5 posted 11-30-2012 05:54 AM

Not worth it.
I’ve been happy with the small veritas saddle square from lee valley.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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#6 posted 11-30-2012 05:55 AM

When I first saw them, my impression was what a neat idea. Then I thought, a dovetail marker like that would be more useful, but I never mark the back side of a dovetail. So, neat idea, but useless for most applications. The video shows marking a tenon all the way around, but I’d just use a marking gauge for that :-)) I guess the consensus is, pass on this one.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#7 posted 11-30-2012 05:57 AM

Yep…....I would…...!!!

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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#8 posted 11-30-2012 08:37 AM

Gimmicky Bob, I reckon you would you them once, maybe twice, throw them in a drawer then forget all about em!

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#9 posted 11-30-2012 10:40 AM

When I carry a mark from one face to another, I usually want to carrry the line across the whole face, like they showed with the square. When they showed their straddle square, they left out switching back and forth, using a square to mark across the face, then using their straddle square for the edge, then switching back to a square to mark across the face.

I do find it interesting (and possibly useful) that their straddle square marks across the edge and around to the face, when marking for machine cross cuts. But isn’t just marking the edge, usually good enough in that case.

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#10 posted 11-30-2012 01:28 PM

Ordered a set. Will review it when I get them. What I might use or think is “worth it” is totally different from some others, but I was cuious. I am a sucker for accurate layout tools. Got a lot of em and use a lot of em. I am also a sucker for Incra and Woodpeckers. High quality products that do what they say will do. Might be a little pricey, but a $1,000 router $800 “dust extraction” unit (read shop vac) or a $3500 table saw are a little steep for me. Are they worth it? not to me but they are to a lot of you guys out there. Have a great day, smile more, and be safe! :-)

-- Improvidus, Apto quod Victum-- Improvise, Adapt, Overcome

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#11 posted 11-30-2012 01:56 PM

$110? Not worth it to me. Would think you could easily make something (nonadjustable) out of scrap wood that would be good enough. But your definition of ‘good enough’ may be different than mine.

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#12 posted 11-30-2012 03:19 PM

If you are doing something that needs that much accuracy, you probably are in knife territory rather than pencil marks. Use Peter Seller’s knifewall technique of scribing the reference edge with a regular square, flip the board over, hold the knife in the cut mark and bring the square up to it. Then scribe the adjacent side. Flip over and do the same trick, using the original scribe line to align the square. You are using the first scribe as the reference for the others and having a mechanical stop to do the alignment. I suspect the straddle square would not improve on that because you still need two operations to get scribes the length of the work piece with it.

Of course all of these techniques rely on the work piece being accurately machined to have faces perpendicular to one another.

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#13 posted 12-02-2012 05:31 PM

I agree with a lot of the responses above. If it was a needed tool, to me, it is still way too highly priced. These companies kill me with their high costs of products. Come on now. I know the CEO’s gotta go on their high priced vacations, but, they won’t get there from my wallet

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Kentuk55@bellsouth.net

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#14 posted 12-02-2012 07:00 PM

I don’t / wouldn’t ever buy anything from them…I are way too high on their prices, and I haven’t found anything they sell that I can’t live without…..I guess they need fuel for the jet….!!!

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#15 posted 12-02-2012 07:56 PM

No way. That is not a tool. It’s just a gadget and one that could easily be made from scrap hardwood or aluminum if you have metal working tools/machines.

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