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UKCat

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11-29-2012 09:01 AM

I am trying to figure out what I should buy. I will have about $1500 to spend on my shop in the next couple of weeks and at first I was thinking about buying an 8” grizzly jointer and dewalt 735 planer. Then I started thinking about buying the 15” grizzly planer and holding off on the jointer. I’m really not sure which way to go on this and am looking for advice.


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David Craig

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#1 posted 11-29-2012 09:25 AM

I am sure there will be some folks that will explain to me the difference that those 2 inches will make on the planer and the benefits of having a floor model instead of a lunchbox.

It comes down to what you see your future needs being and what you have to work with.

How are you going to flatten and joint your stock until you get the jointer? Do you use hand planes? I don’t have a jointer and I go the hand plane route but can tell you my output is very slow. You can face plane and edge joint with a router, but that is also a bit of a setup and can be a PIA at times.

But you will need to be able to flatten and joint before using the planer. How heavy is your usage going to be? Production or hobbyist pace? What is the used tool market like in your area?

Just a few things to ask yourself before pulling the trigger. Every decision has its give and take and asking yourself these questions will help you make the choice that best fits your current situation.

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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Purrmaster

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#2 posted 11-29-2012 12:07 PM

I’m going to assume you have stuff like a miter saw and a table saw. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

The advantage of a stationary planer is that it will be more “heavy duty.” Probably more horsepower, it will be heavier (i.e. less vibration), sturdier, and probably have longer infeed and outfeed tables.

If your wood is flat you may not need a jointer. if it’s not, or you are using roughsawn stock you’ll want a jointer. I don’t like my jointer very much but it is useful.

I’ve read good things about the DeWalt 735. I’ve got it’s little brother, the 734. I like my planer but just from looking at the 735 in the store I can tell the 735 is a beefier machine.

Planers and jointers go together like apples and cinnamon. If it were me, personally, I’d get the 8 inch jointer and the planer. Bear in mind I’m just a hobbyist.

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Arminius

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#3 posted 11-29-2012 12:30 PM

If you don’t have a jointer now, I’d go for the pair. Getting a 15” planer without a fairly serious jointer seems like an odd path to me.

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mloy365

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#4 posted 11-29-2012 12:31 PM

It comes down to what you see your future needs being and what you have to work with. Is the key to what you do.
I currently have the 735 and a 8” jointer. No matter what planer I ever get, I will always keep the 735.

-- Mike - Northern Upper Michigan

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svenman

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#5 posted 11-29-2012 12:40 PM

First truing up the board face on the Jointer, then passing it through the Planer makes a world of difference in stock preparation. I do a lot of raised panel work, and having dead-flat stock is critical to me.

I originally bought a 6” Jet Jointer and a 12” Delta lunchbox planer and used that setup for about 2 years. Never really liked the amount of snipe from the delta planer, so I did upgrade to the Dewalt 735. It gave me a great surface for about the first 50 linear feet, and zero snipe, but then the surface started to go downhill as the blades had more lumber pass over them. It went through blades like crazy. At $50 a set for three ‘disposable’ blades, it quickly added up to a lot of frustration and cash down the drain.

I bought a 15”delta X5 floor-standing planer (used) for $450 three years ago, and am very happy I did. I can sharpen the blades myself when nicks develop. There is very little snipe and the dust collection is much better than the 735. I also upgraded the 6” jointer to an 8” delta. To me, the extra 2” on the jointer was a world of difference. Check out CraigsList or eBay for used machinery is my suggestion.

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Don W

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#6 posted 11-29-2012 12:41 PM

How much do you joint? I’m with David on this. I have a Delta 6” jointer and almost never turn it on. I’ve gotten to the point even my rough sawn gets the hand plane treatment unless I have a lot of it to do.

Also the 15” planers are more about depth than width. Most are heavier duty so planiing is meant to be quicker. Do you really have projects were the extra 3” in width really matters? (and that’s not a rhetorical question)

I restored a stationary planer to replace my lunch box, but almost 100% of my wood is rough sawn, that I saw, so although I’m now getting better results with the bandsaw mill, the alaskian mill tended to be somewhat inconsistent, so I made it a little thicker than needed, so I wanted something to even up the wood.

I think the 735 will probably do everything you’ll need, but then who knows what the future brings. You’d be best to guess that….............................As for the jointer, I’ve never used enough over 2” at a time to worry about it.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Howie

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#7 posted 11-29-2012 12:55 PM

I have a 735 and have used it for years. Works great and never had a problem with it, D/c is a HF d/c and works good.
HAD a 6 Ridgid jointer I bought new. Sat around so long I sold it so I had more room in the shop. (I use an Incra LS-25 on the router for edges) I’m just selective about the rough luimber I buy (about 98% of my wood) and I don’t need the jointer.
Like others have pointed out, how many times would you use the extra 2” on the planer. Woodworking gets to be expensive so weigh your needs and shop smart.

-- Life is good.

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UKCat

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#8 posted 11-29-2012 04:15 PM

I am just a hobbyist and just really getting to a point where I can start getting a few things. I’ve been researching and trying to determine where I should spend. It seems like everything I’ve read says the 3 main pieces of equipment are TS, jointer and planer. I’ve wondered if a 6” jointer wouldn’t be enough for what I plan on doing, but I’ve read so many reviews where people end up regretting not getting the 8”. I currently have rigid 4512, Bosch 1617 router, HF 14” BS, 16 speed Clarke DP, a bosch ROS, a hitachi 10” metier saw, and a 2 HP HF DC. I have a few hand tools but not much. I have a stanly hand plane, the cheap one from lowes. I have a couple cordless drills, set of woodriver chisels and some scrapers and clamps. But I figure I can buy most of these as I go. Thanks for all the advice.

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UKCat

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#9 posted 11-29-2012 04:21 PM

Also, I am wanting the jointer and planer mostly to be able to buy rough sawn lumber to save money.

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UKCat

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#10 posted 11-29-2012 04:28 PM

I forgot to mention that I have been searching CL for both and haven’t had a lot of luck. I did come across an 8” jointer(Grizzly 1018) for $450. I’m thinking about seeing if its still available. Most planers I’ve seen they are asking new prices for.

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NiteWalker

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#11 posted 11-29-2012 04:32 PM

15” planer, build a sled for flattening warped boards, start a penny jar for the jointer.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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pintodeluxe

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#12 posted 11-29-2012 04:40 PM

Get the jointer and the 735. You can do almost anything with that pair.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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Surfside

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#13 posted 11-29-2012 04:44 PM

I will choose planer first for one simple reason . You can use the planer to joint but you can’t use the jointer to plane .


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derosa

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#14 posted 11-29-2012 04:46 PM

Because of the small price difference between a set up 735 and some of the entry level floor planers I will be going the 15” route hopefully in the next year, several of my cutting boards have been just at or slightly over 13” and I’m starting a bedroom set that will have 15” deep side tables. So for these I’ll have to take my pieces over to a friend’s who has a 20” planer which I’ve already done this year. It seems I’ve needed 15 or 16” wide about once a year which is just often enough to want to pay the extra for the convenience. I will also want an 8” jointer as most of the pieces of wood I buy are between 6-7” and not too infrequently up to 9”. I’d hate to have to remove the guard, plane one side, use a board to keep it level in the planer or just cut off the extra just because I settled on a 6”. A lot of that small extra ends up in cutting boards and I’d like it jointed and planed with everything else.

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse

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oldnovice

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#15 posted 11-29-2012 05:58 PM

I know a professional cabinet maker that does not use a planer. After gluing up his panels, no planing before hand, he runs his glued up panels through a 48” wide belt sander. He told me he uses the sander as opposed to a planer because a sander is not as “hard” on the joints. But that machine IS NOT cheap!

I have a Delta 13” planer for about eight years and I am very pleased with its operation and quality of machining! Most of the material I have put through that planer is 100 year old oak (to remove the finish as opposed to chemical stripping).

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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