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11-28-2012 12:56 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question bandsaw 110v 220v rikon 10-325 bs wiring

I just purchased a new Rikon 10-325 14” BS with a 1-1/2HP motor and 13” of resaw capacity. It comes pre-wired for 110V operation. I have 220V available in my shop and was wondering if rewiring it to 220V would provide any added benefits. What would the advantages of one setup be over the other? What are the pros & cons of the two different wiring configurations?

Thank you, in advance for your sage input and advice!

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?


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#1 posted 11-28-2012 01:22 PM

Lets see pictures of your new Rikon 10-325 14” BS with a 1-1/2HP motor and 13” of resaw capacity.

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#2 posted 11-28-2012 01:35 PM

It will cost less to run using 220V. The motor will run more efficient and cooler.

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#3 posted 11-28-2012 01:48 PM

it uses the same amt of electricity in either configuration…VoltsxAmps =Watts

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#4 posted 11-28-2012 02:04 PM

michelletwo is correct. No savings of electricity. The advantage is that you half the amp draw. The advantage depends on the amps that your 110 circuit can provide and what else is on the same circuit. My largest amp draw from my tools is 15 amps. I have a dedicated 20amp 110 for them. I do not run two tools at the same time, never blow a fuse, and my tools are not starved for electricity, so I never felt compelled to wire a 220, though my fuse box has space for the circuit. If you have a great deal of draw on the 110s on your shop, best to wire the machine for 220, otherwise you will starve the motor which will affect its ability. If your circuit will give you more amps than what your tool needs, then you should be fine and a rewire is not necessary.

David

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#5 posted 11-28-2012 02:12 PM

I rewired mine to 220 and did the same for table saw and dust collector. The main advantage for me is that with those 3 machines on the same 220V circuit, I can run the dust collector with one of the 2 saws as well as with any other tool in the workshop while those are connected to the remaining 2 110V circuits. Depending on how many 110V circuits you have available it may not be needed but in my case, it’s very useful. If the 220 circuit is already there, why not? It will cost only a couple minutes to rewire, plus a bit of cable and a proper plug.

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#6 posted 11-28-2012 03:18 PM

many of my machines are either or too

don’t know all the specifics
but i always felt 220 gives a better ‘kick’
at starting

kind of like wheaties
compared to corn flakes

and with so many 110 tools too
my circuits are never clogged down

any tool that takes a moment to spin up
(unless made with slow start)
seems to be struggling for a second
something i figure works on the motor somehow

when i turn a tool on
i like for it to snap to

if i have to say pretty please
i wonder whose team it is on

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#7 posted 11-28-2012 03:50 PM

The only real advantage is that in all likelyhood you will only be running one or maybe two 220V machines at the same time on that circuit which will decrease the chances of a circuit breaker popping. Other than that there is no real difference between powering the saw on 110V vs 220V.

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#8 posted 11-28-2012 04:19 PM

You can have several things on the same 220v circuit without worrying about tripping a breaker. On 110v, that’s often not the case.

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#9 posted 11-28-2012 04:35 PM

220 V single phase is nothing more than the combination of TWO 110 volt lines that run 180 degrees out of phase with each other. More voltage, more power to the motor.

Its really a simple (but ingenious) solution for more power. To understand it, do a little research about 220V on the Internet. Study the voltage sine curve and what happens when the sine curve of each 110 V circuit is shifted 180 degrees out of phase with each other and then the two sine curves are placed one on top of the other. The difference of polarity will give you 220 V from the two 110 V lines.

Planeman

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#10 posted 11-28-2012 04:46 PM

planeman40…...... are you saying that the OP’s motor will develop more power wired for 220 than it will wired for 110?

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#11 posted 11-28-2012 04:52 PM

@Planeman – No, it’s not more power. Power is measured in Watts, the requirements of which must be met in order for a motor to run successfully. It’s just that at “110v” (more accurately probably closer to 120v), you need twice the amperage as with “220v.”

“Power” is equal to “volts” times “amperage.” You aren’t changing the power by converting a motor from 110v to 220v current…it just draws at half amperage.

Perhaps you didn’t mean to state it that way, but instead of saying “more power to the motor” you should say “more voltage to the motor at half the amps.”

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#12 posted 11-28-2012 04:59 PM

Thanks folks. I have a fairly clear understanding of electricity, but wanted to be sure. I will rewire it to 220v, for circuit overload protection on the already maxed out 110 circuits.

Again, thanks.

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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#13 posted 11-29-2012 07:51 PM

There is an advantage to 220V, that is it uses 1/2 the amps and the motor will run cooler. Also your tooling and lighting are separated.

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#14 posted 11-29-2012 08:09 PM

A long standing debate that never gets answered! my only experience was on a old Craftsman RAS (before Craftsman became Crapsman). Perhaps all in my head but I noticed a difference. Is it possible that changing the wiring somehow produces more amps on the same motor? I only run 12ga wire on 20a breakers…is “line loss” that much different on a 120v circuit vs. a 240v circuit such that the latter delivers more power to the motor?

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#15 posted 11-29-2012 09:39 PM

Thanks for the replies.
I like that the motor would run cooler, seems like a good enough reason to run it 220V.

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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