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Forum topic by grego posted 204 days ago 477 views 0 times favorited 3 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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grego

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204 days ago

A very basic question about wood movement.

Paul Sellers has this wonderful series of Youtube videos on making a dovetailed box. One thing he does is glue a solid wood bottom directly to the bottom of the box. I’ve read in several places how box bottoms need to “float” in grooves because of expansion as the wood absorbs moisture. Is this advice all wrong or perhaps exaggerated?

Here’s the youtube video where (at the start) he talks about gluing the bottom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcQATQLzDuw&feature=relmfu

I tried emailing a question to the master himself about this. He seems to be an incredibly busy guy so I’m not surprised I didn’t hear back.

Appreciate the Lumberjocks’ good advice!




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DS

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#1 posted 204 days ago

Generally speaking, you are correct—you should NOT glue a solid bottom into a dovetailed box.

You CAN, however, tack glue along end grain in the center of the panel with the rest left loose—that would still allow expansion without catastrophic results.

Some people glue along only one edge for a similar result, but to me that puts a high burden on the other edge for all of the expansion clearances.

Also note that the rules can be fudged if your bottom is plywood or MDF instead of solid wood, as there is minimal expansion with these materials.

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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CharlieM1958

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#2 posted 204 days ago

I know it goes against conventional wisdom, but I have made many, many boxes with glued-on solid wood bottoms and/or tops, and I have yet to have a single problem caused by wood movement. I will add the caveat that here in southern Louisiana humidity levels remain pretty high throughout the year, so wood movement might be somewhat less of a problem than it is in colder climates.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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grego

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#3 posted 198 days ago

Thanks guys.

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