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Forum topic by pdbernardo posted 11-26-2012 01:58 PM 1074 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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pdbernardo

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11-26-2012 01:58 PM

Hey all,

I”m new to all of this, and I know that this is the sort of thing on which people disagree, but here goes:

I”m restoring some planes and some chisels as I learn my way into Neanderthaldom. I understand that a kind of paste wax – Renaissance vs. Sc Johnson, let the battle begin! – is good for plane bodies. But I have two related quesions:

1) should I use some kind of rust-proof before I put the wax on? Is Boeshield useful here?

2) more importantly – and this is my real question – what do you all use for your plane blades and chisels? I live in a moderate climate and don’t see terrible rust, but I do work in my basement, and I’m a weekend warrior. I’d like to do the best I can for my tools. I understand that FWW did a test and found Camellia oil to be… not so effective. What do you all use?

Thanks!

-- --- Patrick.


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Biff

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#1 posted 11-26-2012 03:03 PM

In my experience, the Boeshield works great for tools that don’t get used often. For stuff I use often (like every weekend), I just wipe it down with WD40 when I put it away.

Stuff like tablesaw top gets a coat of paste wax about once a year.

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JohnChung

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#2 posted 11-26-2012 03:05 PM

I am from Malaysia. RH over here is high…. 60 to 70. As for wax I use SC Johnson. It does help protect tools for awhile. Anyway humidity does catchup if I do not store my tools in a dry box with a dehumidifier. Once protected by wax and dry box, I can leave my tools for months on end….. without rust.

If you do have the space. You can try the following. Build a box and light a small lamp in the box. You must bring down the humidity to below 30 RH. At that point rust stops…......

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Clint Searl

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#3 posted 11-26-2012 03:11 PM

Rust never sleeps.

A weekly wipedown with WD40 will keep it at bay. Better than wax.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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#4 posted 11-26-2012 03:13 PM

I spray gun oil on mine. Seems to do a pretty good job and I have seen no rust.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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LukieB

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#5 posted 11-26-2012 03:17 PM

I have been using Boeshield T-9 on all my planes, however I also saw FWW’s rust torture test. And bought some CRC 336, been pretty impressed so far…..

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David

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#6 posted 11-26-2012 04:33 PM

One trick I use is to put the packets of desiccant that you get with lots of products in the box with anything I want to keep dry. It’s only effective for relatively well sealed enclosures though, so just throwing some in a drawer probably won’t do much.

Beyond that I use paste wax and have a dehumidifier running in the basement to keep the RH down.

Keep whatever you’re storing tools in off the ground and away from walls as basement floors/walls tend to be cooler than the air and cooler temp means higher relative humidity even though the absolute humidity may be the same. (Not to mention unsealed concrete or brick lets a fair amount of water into your basement.)

I haven’t found any specific products to work better than others (not saying some aren’t better, just that I haven’t tested too many), I prefer to keep the environment unfavorable to rust as my primary means to prevent it.

-- Perilous to all of us are the devices of an art deeper than we ourselves possess. --Gandalf the Grey http://davidwahl.org/category/woodworking/

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bobasaurus

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#7 posted 11-26-2012 06:18 PM

I do a first coat of the boeing t9 spray, let it dry and buff it off, then a coat of paste wax. I have yet to see rust on anything after doing this, though I do live in a dry climate.

-- Allen, Colorado

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Kreegan

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#8 posted 11-26-2012 07:52 PM

I use paste wax on larger surfaces like the lathe bed and table saw. For hand tools, I use camellia oil. It works just fine for me and is what’s recommended by Lie-Nielsen. I think FWW didn’t get a big enough kickback from the camellia oil makers for that article…

Rich;)

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pdbernardo

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#9 posted 11-27-2012 02:25 PM

Thanks guys. I know there’s a lot of different ways people beat the rust, and so far I haven’t seen major problems in my shop, but it’s all still new. I want to start off right and develop good habits from the start.

So am I ok with using T-9 on my blades and chisels? I’ve recently cleaned up a couple of old chisels (bought cheap, wanted to practice flattening the backs – got what I wanted for practice and more – what a pain to flatten some of these!). The new steel I’ve exposed needs something, I’d wager.

Rich, I’m thinking of ordering the camellia oil, but it seems so expensive from L-V. Does one of those bottles last? It seems like such a small amount…

-- --- Patrick.

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Dave

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#10 posted 11-27-2012 02:59 PM

Use and any oil you trust.

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sikrap

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#11 posted 11-27-2012 03:14 PM

I’m another fan of Camellia oil and the dessicant packs. I rehab a LOT of old tools and I have no problem with rust. I wipe down a plane with Camellia oil right after the rehab and forget about it. My users get wiped down after I use them.One very inexpensive source for the dessicant packs is your local pharmacist. I have 2 that I visit regularly and they are happy to give them to me rather than throw them away. Its interesting that FWW didn’t rate Camellia oil very highly because it was one of their editors that suggested it to me at a woodworking show a couple years back.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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Kreegan

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#12 posted 11-27-2012 03:14 PM

You can get camellia oil on Amazon for pretty cheap. I have a microfiber towel that I spray the oil on, then use the towel to wipe my tools down with. It’s accumulated quite a lot of oil, so I only use a couple of spritzes each time. I think I bought an 8 oz bottle from Amazon for 4 or 5 bucks about 4 months ago and it’s still 3/4+ full. It gets used on 8 different planes and an assortment of chisels weekly.

Rich;)

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