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Forum topic by bigbullets posted 11-24-2012 03:47 PM 901 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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bigbullets

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11-24-2012 03:47 PM

Topic tags/keywords: biscuit joiner question joining

I am in the middle of building a library stand and coming down to the end of it where i have to glue up the 24×18 table top. now the plan dont call to do it with biscuits, but i am not entirely sure if using biscuits will in the long run keep the glue joints from separating. do you really need a biscuit joiner for this type of glue up?

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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 11-24-2012 03:50 PM

I’m not one to poo-poo biscuits, I think they really have their uses. However, one of them is NOT edge to edge long grain. Other than alignment, which is useful, they add little to those joints IMHO.

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Bob Kollman

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#2 posted 11-24-2012 03:55 PM

Biscuits add more glue surface and make your joint stronger. It is a small surface and as a library stand I think you can get away without biscuits.

-- Bob Kenosha Wi.

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bigbullets

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#3 posted 11-24-2012 03:56 PM

thanks Fred! I know the alignment was the main feature but strengh was wasnt sure of. maybe I will use some dutchmen

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#4 posted 11-24-2012 04:34 PM

I use biscuits mainly for alignment. They will add a little to the strength but on an edge to edge joint you don’t need them for strength.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#5 posted 11-26-2012 05:10 AM

In your case biscuits are simply an alignment aid. The glue joint, if properly done, is stronger than the wood.

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#6 posted 11-26-2012 05:27 AM

I can’t say I hate biscuit joints but I will say that I own a biscuit jointer that hasn’t been used in probably 15 years.

I prefer dowels, splines, and mortise/tenon for alignment and strength. I never found the biscuits to be that helpful with alignment.

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knotscott

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#7 posted 11-26-2012 10:31 AM

I thought I needed them when I was a rookie and didn’t know any better. I sold my biscuit cutter…on the rare occasions I think biscuit will help, I cut the slot with a router.

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#8 posted 11-26-2012 12:53 PM

I’ve used biscuit joiners quite often with good results. Not sure why there’s such a negative vibe about this tool. I agree that it’s useful for alignment purposes, but it also adds quite a bit of strength to the joint. Although it’s rather eyeglazing, there’s an interesting article on the web that conducted some experiments and goes into great detail claiming “that the “as tested” biscuit joints had as much as 80 percent of the strength of a mortise and tenon joint.” http://www.woodworking.org/WC/GArchive98/Abstract/abstract1.html. That’s pretty impressive for such a simple procedure and sure warrants consideration.

-- Jeff, "The things I make may be for others, but how I make them is for me."

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