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11-24-2012 01:01 PM

I need some help identifying the use of a strange pair of hinges.
They are made of solid brass, measure 7/8” wide and are 1 3/4” open at 180 degrees. The weird part is they are 9/16” thick when closed so I can’t imagine how they would be used without showing that thickness.
They are solidly constructed with a smooth action and are stamped “BREV. DEP SEPA” with what looks like the Swiss flag symbol.
Any ideas?
gene


-- gene@toronto.ontario.canada : dovetail free since '53, critiques always welcome.


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Gene Howe

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#1 posted 11-24-2012 01:17 PM

Bi fold door hinge?

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#2 posted 11-24-2012 01:20 PM

Do they lock in open and closed positions?

In that case they could be useful to to hide a foldable table extension below the table top.
Besides folding it seems to be they retract (don’t know how to express that). So the folded part could be offset to the border of the main table.

I’m not sure I’m clear… sorry

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#3 posted 11-24-2012 01:29 PM

Gene, it can’t be bi-fold as they open only one way though that was my first thought.
Gepatino, they don’t lock in either position and are rather small to be used on a table.
Still a mystery.
gene

-- gene@toronto.ontario.canada : dovetail free since '53, critiques always welcome.

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#4 posted 11-24-2012 01:55 PM

Gene, could they be used on something like a drop-leaf table where the leaf could be flipped all the way over to rest flat on the table surface?

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#5 posted 11-24-2012 02:05 PM

Hinge for a Swiss wall clock?

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#6 posted 11-24-2012 02:37 PM

I’d agree with Dallas. The term brev. dep has a lot of hits for swiss made watches, lighters and what look like a few clock faces. I was thinking that the fact that there are only two holes in each side might lean towards this being a hinge for metal plates rather than wood (where you’d expect to see three holes). Maybe it holds a back cover on a clock?

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404 - Not Found

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#7 posted 11-24-2012 03:01 PM

During the late 1870’s these began to be used on the doors of cuckoo clocks until manufacturing of cuckoo clocks was outsourced to China. It allows the door open fully backwards while the cuckoo projection mechanism (or CPM) is engaged on the hour.
That’s my guess anyway and I’m sticking to it, but definitely for some kind of 180º flap/door.

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#8 posted 11-24-2012 03:04 PM

It looks like they were designed to accommodate a trim overhang. The gap between the hinge sides when open would be a bit over 2 times the edge overhang . Thus allowing the hinge to swing 180 degrees when the door is opened. Could be used in a wooden clock case door.

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#9 posted 11-24-2012 07:41 PM

Gene, I don’t really know, but it would be ideal for a folding chess board used as a top when folded and then the top would sit opened atop the remaining box perhaps turned 90 degrees. No seam in the board and room for men underneath.

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gepatino

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#10 posted 11-25-2012 02:15 AM

Gene, I’ve found these ones and even if they are something new, maybe the use is the same:

http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2083939/35928/aximat-hinge-for-folding-doors-single.aspx

I’ve also found this one, but they don’t say what’s the use for it:

http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2007689/20707/classic-brass-38-offset-hinge-antique-brass-2541ab.aspx

btw, you got me browsing hinges for some 40 minutes, I’ve never imagined there could be such a variety of this things… at least now I know not every hinge is the same.

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#11 posted 11-25-2012 02:42 AM

My thought is that it may be for campaign furniture.

Look at the countersinking of the holes and it seems
an ideal surface mount hinge for a folding table top
and would allow the table to be skirted for stability,
an advantage when taking portable campaign tables
into unfamilar climates.

... might be a piece of carriage, coach, train
or ship cabin hardware…

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#12 posted 11-25-2012 04:06 AM

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#13 posted 11-25-2012 04:16 AM

Wow, thanks everyone for chipping in on this, it re-affirms the pleasure of having a talented community at your disposal when you need an answer. Big props to gepatino!
I’m still not sure but am inclined to go with the Swiss clock connection but hey, leave it to the Swiss to be so secretive.
I’m going to mock these up in different ways and probably use them on a box lid, they sure are sturdy enough.
Thanks again
gene

-- gene@toronto.ontario.canada : dovetail free since '53, critiques always welcome.

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#14 posted 11-25-2012 10:23 AM

Hello Vipond, these hinges are Italian. Have a look: http://www.sepa-hinges.com/
The ones you have are not made of brass, they are casted and coated to look like brass. They are also very brittle and sensitive for not being perfectly aligned. At the website you will see that these hinges nowadays are rounded instead of almost being square. Reason is that you use a router today instead of a chisel. They are probably of better quality today.

I am restoring a furniture from 1955 with the same hinges you have, any chance of letting me by yours?

Kind regards, Henrik in Sweden

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Henri

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#15 posted 11-25-2012 02:57 PM

Actually, when having a second look, yours seems to be of brass, my mistake. Mine are not and they are from 1955. If so, yours are probably of better quality than mine. Would very much like to buy them.

//Henrik

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