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Forum topic by steve6678 posted 643 days ago 1822 views 0 times favorited 23 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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643 days ago

I have a pretty good set of layout tools,most from years ago, some very old, but true, some new, and…not so true.
I have machinist squares I’ve buffed layers of rust off, and they are right on, dead balls perfect.
I’ve bought a combo square, Stanley, for reasonable price, and it’s close, but not precise.

I haven’t purchase ant Incra or WoodPeckers, or Starrett square yet.
I have a hard time spending $60-$200 on my layout stuff, but I SURE DO see the difference..
I bought a SERX WoodPeckers 12” straight edge, and found ALL my rules to be out of true. Wow.

I do see the $ worth, just cannot spend like a drunk sailor on rules and squares.
Little at a time.

-- Steve - Dust sucks!


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Gshepherd

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#1 posted 643 days ago

I have lots of Starret and Pinnacle brand which is made by woodpeckers….Some machinest squares.

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#2 posted 643 days ago

By LOT’S, you mean you bought all of these at retail price over the years?
Expensive, no?

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#3 posted 643 days ago

as long as your square is square – you’re good to go. you can check a square for squareness even without a super precise ($$$) straight edge.

from my experience, the better squares are not necessarily more square for WW purposes, but they are smoother in action, have a better feel in your hand, and have a better finish on them (no sharp corners, scales are easier to read).

the question you have to ask yourself – is your square square, cause if it isn’t- than so are all of your projects (assuming you use your square to check them throughout your workflow).

I wrote about how to check a square for squareness here:
http://lumberjocks.com/PurpLev/blog/26437

that aside, while I do have a couple of starrett combination squares, I don’t use any of the “specialty” layout tools out there like Incra etc (although I do like the idea, and design of those, am just doing fine without them)

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#4 posted 643 days ago

Machinest tools come up at tag sales and you don’t
really need that level of precision for general
hobby woodworking.

I have Starrett stuff and other brands too.

Lee Valley sliding square is a favorite tool for me
and I use them a lot. I have 2 of them; imperial
and metric.

I also have imperial and metric dial calipers and
use them a lot. They are not name brand.

There are 2 types of precision generally needed
in woodworking and those are 1) angles and 2)
distances. I am getting into metric and more
involved with point-to-point distances and precision
drilling for cabinet making. For furniture and one-offs,
such precision is seldom neccesary.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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steve6678

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#5 posted 643 days ago

a while ago I kept tweeking my sled fence because it showed out when I put my fixed square on the crosscut. I checked my sled fence-to-blade with a Starrett framing square, it wasdead-on.
Come to find out that the fixed square I WAS using for all my layout and such was off.
I moved that fence a bunch a times for no reason.

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#6 posted 643 days ago

I build for customers. My Hobby is cleaning my shop…Ha

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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steve6678

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#7 posted 643 days ago

I wish I had time to build Xmas gifts for family, but…
Bizz is great, 3 months of commissions booked

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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PurpLev

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#8 posted 643 days ago

nice hobby, you are welcome to drop by and clean my shop too – win-win situation ;)

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#9 posted 643 days ago

I’m a OCD neat freak in my shop…order and tidy

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#10 posted 643 days ago

Unless you like using mechanical pencils for the Incra layout tools, go for a nice combo square.

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steve6678

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#11 posted 643 days ago

http://www.woodpeck.com/mpower.html

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#12 posted 643 days ago

Tons of Incra, dude! Love their stuff!

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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#13 posted 643 days ago

I have a moderate collection:

- 12” Starrett combo square
- 4” and 6” Lee Valley (made by PEC tools) double squares
- 6” engineer square
- 6” and 12” Shinwa steel rules
- Veritas 24” and 36” aluminum straightedges
- Small Veritas saddle square (more useful than I thought!)

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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steve6678

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#14 posted 643 days ago

That saddle square, I looked at that, you find it useful?

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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#15 posted 643 days ago

I trace around corners with a square, from 1-4 and it always (mostly) seems to end up different

-- Steve - Dust sucks!

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