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Forum topic by Bark to Blade posted 11-21-2012 04:32 AM 1260 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-21-2012 04:32 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question ash jointer modern

hey all,

a bit of newbie here, taking on a dining table project. I have a nice big grizzly 8” jointer with the long beds, but have a little trouble feeding 96” stock through jointer and getting good results. The ash I am using is not in the best shape, little warp and twist. Getting a little snipe in the middle of boards as I feed them through if I don’t keep material moving over blades. Going to use festool domino to put table top together, to help with aligning…any tips from the veterans on this one.

Thanks,

Mike


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#1 posted 11-21-2012 05:30 AM

If it’s warped and twisted enough that you can’t get it through a joiner, are you sure you want to use it. I don’t think there is any way to get a twist out of a board with a planer or anything else. I’d replace the board with a straight one and cut that one up for smaller parts. I’m assuming that you need the 96” length for the table or you’d have cut it already.

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#2 posted 11-21-2012 05:39 AM

If the finished table is any less than 96”, I would shorten the stock to 6” greater that finished length. This will make the jointing operation easier and more accurate. If however, the table will be a full 96”, I would set up infeed and outfeed rollers for more support.

That is one big table. I would consider making an extension table – in which case you will run the boards width-wise. In this application you would be jointing boards less than 48” long.
Here is one extension table I made.


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#3 posted 11-21-2012 05:56 AM

thanks guys, yeah thought about the rollers. The boards aren’t that messed up that I think I need to replace them. I jointed the faces today/tonight. going to do edges tomorrow and then trim them up on the table saw…and then see what I’ve got.

follow up question…what do you think the result will be through the planer with a little snipe in a couple places? I feel like if my board is reasonably jointed, I can plane other side and get it nice and flat, use it as my table surface…thoughts?

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#4 posted 11-21-2012 07:24 AM

well it seems to have worked, couldn’t wait till tomorrow morning…knew it would bother me while trying to go to sleep. So I went out to garage and tried running one board through planer…hit snag, freaking planer infeed and outfeed feeders were not turning! Took planer apart a little and messed with gear system, didn’t think I fixed it, but put that sucker back together and foila! Wheels were rolling!! Also on my dewalt I have fine planing setting and I think that is going to be the key for me, left a beautiful clean finish on board. Only did one, but I think I will be okay…we will see.

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#5 posted 11-21-2012 01:00 PM

Sounds like you have the DeWalt 735 planer. Once in a while it will not grab a board. I just give it a little push and it picks up usually.
I had a walnut board with a slight twist in it the other day and the planer couldn’t remove it. If the joiner is sniping in the middle of the board due to the twist, you can make a shorter fence with a board on your joiner so you can grab the corner down low and join it straight. sometimes a slight twist will really mess up joining, but if the board is only being guided with a one inch high fence it will go through that twist without sniping it in the middle of the board.

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#6 posted 11-21-2012 01:16 PM

Most of the wood I use is from a local sawyer, so I get all manner of twists, warps, cups, holes, checks, and even the occasional buckshot.
One thing I’ve found helpful on those long boards is that after you work them through the planer and joiner, you need to let them set at least a couple days and then recheck or re run all the boards through the planer one last time for uniform thickness.
There is only one thing that makes glue-up or breaks them and that is having absolutely straight stock.
Run your eye down those boards, and any twist, cup, warp you see is what your table top will look like.

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#7 posted 11-21-2012 03:42 PM

yeah for sure, although when I put coffee table together using festool domino I was really able to make wood move the way I wanted it to. I mean I guess it will be moving and shifting with the seasons…not as much out here on California in SF, no humidity issues and stays pretty mild year round.

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