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Forum topic by CharlieM1958 posted 11-20-2012 07:09 PM 1417 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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CharlieM1958

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11-20-2012 07:09 PM

Anybody know anything of interest about these planes or this manufacturer?

All I know is that it was a Dutch company that made both ice skates and tools. They started in business in the late 1860’s, and operated in one form or another until the early 1990’s.

The box looks very old, but the plane is in basically unused condition. I don’t believe it is over 100 years old, as the seller indicated was told to him, but it’s not very new either. I’ve located some photos of their more contemporary planes, and the logo is definitely more modern than the one on this box (which is also on the iron.)

I’d love to hear any thoughts from you guys.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"


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Don W

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#1 posted 11-20-2012 07:24 PM

I don’t have answers Charlie, but I seem to recall seeing something similar when I was looking for info on my Ulmia

it might help?

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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CharlieM1958

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#2 posted 11-20-2012 07:27 PM

Yeah, Don, I ran across the Ulmia when I was looking for info on this one. They are pretty similar except for the Ulmia having the adjustable mouth.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#3 posted 11-20-2012 08:23 PM

well i don’t have anything to add that will help, but i sure love this plane and the old box, you got a nice set there charlie, i hope you can find more info, i wonder if a plane expert could possibly give an age on the plane.

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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Tennessee

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#4 posted 11-20-2012 08:26 PM

I used to do a lot of ice skating when I was in high school and college, even taught kids for a while.
I’d try to go at it from the ice skate angle for a while – the Dutch are big ice skaters.

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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#5 posted 11-20-2012 09:28 PM

This is a tough one Charlie as there doesn’t seem to be a website of devotees that contribute info about this plane. Logos are usually one of the big clues for dating an item. If you can find other planes for sale and compare logos and their placement in comparison to yours, you might be able to get a closer date range. Regardless, you have a find wood plane there in much better condition than you usually find.

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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#6 posted 11-20-2012 10:09 PM

Charlie, it is a very typical European smoother. It is somewhat newer as it uses a modern style lever cap instead of a wedge. It has a red beech body with a lignum vitae sole. I saw tons of these when I was stationed in Germany. First time I have seen the box you have though. Maybe some of the European guys will have some info on the manufacturer. I will tell you, when you tune these up properly, they are sweet.

-- Mike

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#7 posted 11-21-2012 12:39 AM

There’s one for sale in my town, Charlie! At a Mennonite thrift store. http://winnipeg.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-tools-hand-tools-Dutch-Beechwood-Nooitgedagt-Fore-Plane-W0QQAdIdZ429417030
It’s been listed for a while…

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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Moron

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#8 posted 11-21-2012 01:10 AM

i got one

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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CharlieM1958

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#9 posted 11-21-2012 01:30 AM

Thanks for the input, guys.

Poopie, yes, that is the newer logo I ran across.

Paratrooper: I’m definitely going to hone this up and give it a go. It has a real sweet feel in the hands.

Moron: I’d love to see a pic of yours if you get a chance.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#10 posted 11-21-2012 11:32 AM

Charlie, I’d hunted the company a while ago to trace a metal square I have..
Found this from a 1999 posting..

“The firm was Jan Nooitgedagt of Ylst, Friesland, Holland. A
prolific and long operating maker:c1650 to present (present was 1976).

My understanding is that a few years ago, Nooitgedagt was
purchased by Record (UK). Last year about this time Record was
purchased by American Tool Company (Vise Grips and more). I
suppose this makes Nooitgedagt an American company.

I have also heard the name translates to “Never thought of” or
something like that. “

(Seems to me somewhere in the mix was also Rubbermaid ? Multinational takeovers eh !)

-- Glen, Vernon B.C. Canada

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CharlieM1958

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#11 posted 11-21-2012 01:45 PM

Thanks, Glen. Thar pretty much squares (pun intended) with what I’ve found.

I honed the iron last night and took some shavings with it…. very sweet!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#12 posted 11-21-2012 08:20 PM

I have a couple of similar planes I bought on German ebay the company Nooitgedagt still operates and I have a few of their turning chisels .Not regarded as top money items Charle have fun.

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#13 posted 11-21-2012 09:45 PM

If it works as nice as my Ulmia, its a keeper. I bought the Ulmia just to flip, but once I tried it I was hooked. Its bed at 50 degree’s and it works really nice.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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poopiekat

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#14 posted 11-25-2012 01:52 AM

Hey, Charlie!
I bought that Nooitgedadt plane I mentioned above, at that thrift store. Let me know if there’s a photo or detail you need to know from my plane, I’m kinda on the bottom side of the learning curve on these European horned models.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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