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dreamdogs

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11-17-2012 11:38 PM

Greetings …

Though I’m sneaking up on sixty, I’m still a strictly amateur woodworker. I’m also new to Lumberjocks and have learned a great deal in reading various threads this last week or so!

I just received a shipment of Mr. Neil’s wood conditioner for the control of blotching, a problem I’ve encountered in a number of projects over the years. I’m keen to use the product and will post a review of the results. Meantime, a question …

My current project is a massive old fir sideboard, maybe circa 1920s. I’ve got it stripped and sanded, am overall pleased with it, and am ready for the finish. What do you use for a final clean-up? I’ve vacuumed it til the cows came home (really, the cows were headed home), and might also give it a real thorough rubdown with a tack cloth.

Anything else? I think I read somewhere that some folks like to do a rubdown with acetone or similar. I’m not opposed, though I’d strongly prefer not to change the wood’s color tone before adding the conditioner, and I’ve got the feeling acetone would do that.

I searched the forum for thoughts on this matter but am not the most computer savvy person. If there’s already a thread on it, I would be grateful for a link. Many thanks! This is a terrific forum, and I will be grateful for your thoughts on clean-up.

And Happy-Almost-Turkey-Day to you all …


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a1Jim

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#1 posted 11-17-2012 11:44 PM

I agree with Charles Neil on using Naphtha to clean any striped wood ,it removes any contaminates before refinishing.

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#2 posted 11-18-2012 12:32 AM

Always wipe it down with naphtha, denatured alcohol, or mineral spirits…not so much to help clean it, but rather to see any mistakes in your preparation. I like mineral spirits because it evaporates a little slower and I feel that I can see the wood better. Acetone should work as well…I’ve actually used it when cleaning my telescope optics, but I can’t say I’ve ever rubbed it on wood…though I’d think there wouldn’t be an issue with color.

Typically, I use compressed air first and then the mineral spirits. Tack clothes get used sometimes on smaller projects.

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#3 posted 11-18-2012 12:41 AM

Welcome to LJ’s

Lots of old amateurs here. I wipe down with naphtha.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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#4 posted 11-18-2012 06:30 AM

I blow off the dust with compressed air, wipe down with dry cheese cloth (different than tack cloth), and blow off again. I have never had to wipe a project down with naptha of spirits. The lacquer, poly, and shellac finishes I use always come out great.

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#5 posted 11-18-2012 12:55 PM

Always used mineral spirits. When you wipe the piece you’ll see why on your cloth.

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#6 posted 11-18-2012 01:34 PM

Agree Mineral Spirits….

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dreamdogs

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#7 posted 11-18-2012 04:30 PM

Thank you all for your replies! I appreciate it for sure.

Five of six of you agree a wipe down is best. Pintodeluxe recommends compressed air and cheese cloth. My wife has cheese cloth in the kitchen but I don’t have a compressor in the garage (wish I did). Being a cheapskate at heart, I’m thinking about using the leaf blower in lieu of a compressor but worry that might just spread around more grit!

I will think it through some more but am leaning toward naphtha. I’ve got mineral spirits and denatured alcohol on hand, but maybe it’s time to try something new. Anyway, thanks again for your advice. This old sideboard has been an enjoyable project. If I can figure out how to do it, I will post a photo when it’s complete, along with whatever thoughts I’ve got (for what they’re worth!) on Mr. Neil’s product.

Best wishes, time now to take the dogs out for a run …

Paul

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#8 posted 11-18-2012 05:36 PM

Make sure you have adequate ventilation using any of these products to wipe it down with. Also no open flames(like a hot water heater) nearby.
Welcome to LJ’s and remember always be safe.

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dhazelton

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#9 posted 11-18-2012 10:14 PM

Just use a dusting brush or old paint brush to dust it off. People did great work before electricity.

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#10 posted 11-18-2012 10:24 PM

I always use denatured alcohol because it never leaves any residue of any kind and dries quick.

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#11 posted 11-18-2012 10:42 PM

Lots of good info in this thread. I think I’ve used all of the above at one time or another. The best so for (for me) was using the shop vac with a brush attachment and then rubbing the dust off with mineral spirits. And finally, what Arlin said….. just plain old alcohol. The alcohol will raise the grain a little, but when it does, it shows the places that you should have spent more time on. A little light sanding and one last wipe with mineral spirits and that does it.

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#12 posted 11-18-2012 11:35 PM

Nahptha or Mineral spirits, I would refrain from acetone or alcohol, as many of these older pieces were made using hide glue and the stronger solvents can attack the old glue, wipe a wet coat on then with a clean cloth wipe it dry. be sure it dries well before applying the blotch control , looking forwrd to your review,
If you have qny questions either post here or email me Charles@charlesneilwoodworking.com , be glad to help if I can .

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dreamdogs

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#13 posted 11-21-2012 02:37 PM

Well, I came to realize it would take my full powers of concentration to get ready for turkey, football, pie and late night sandwiches … so I’ve set aside the project until after the holiday. Just a quick note here to say thanks again for all your replies, and to wish you a Happy Thanksgiving.

Mr. Neil, will do! I’ve got mineral spirits on hand, and don’t mind not having to go out to buy something else. Really looking forward to using the blotch control, as I have felt that blotching has been trouble now and again in previous projects.

I take on woodworking tasks of one sort or another only occasionally. I suppose this will strike you all as obvious and kind of funny: having spent a couple of weeks on this piece, I’ve got an itch to do more! I find it gratifying work. Hmm. I’ve got an ancient oak wine press that used to belong to my grandfather. It’s all in shambles. I do believe I’ll make putting that thing back together my very next chore. Meantime, I’ll post the results on the sideboard when I get back to it in some days.

Thanks again …

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