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11-17-2012 07:00 PM

I am wondering if these have any issues of heating up and either burning the wood or maybe the velcro on the sand paper giving way after running it straight for a decent period of time? Probably about to buy a Woodmaster 1200

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#1 posted 11-17-2012 07:14 PM

If your buying a woodmaster, unless they changed something over the last several years they do not use velcro to hold the paper on. I know the smaller cabinet type like shop fox and griz do use velcro…. And yes, you can burn the velcro and paper if your taking to much off, not using the right grit, speed ect…....

SuperMax 37” dual drum The best in my book for drum sanders.
WoodMaster 725
Larick edge Profile Sander variable speed and tilting head is sweet….
Shop Fox 12” drum bought brand new for 400 bucks, had a weak moment…...
Oliver OS spindle Sander
Delta Boss spindle sander
Ridgid bench top sander darn good little sander for what it is…..

I am proud to say I have burned wood and sandpaper on all of them…. Sadly everytime I did it was my own fault….

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#2 posted 11-17-2012 07:18 PM

Thanks for the reply. How is the sandpaper attached? Forgive my igonorance on this. Never even turned one on

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#3 posted 11-17-2012 08:01 PM

I have never used the woodmaster for sanding. I do after looking at the website Woodmaster Tools, you can get some info but the 1200 is a older machine…. They also use hook and loop, velcro for short….. How the planer/sander works I do not know. I do know that with the shopfox I have it is a hook and loop and you can easily burn the paper and velcro if your not carefull….. I use it for real short boards and it works good if I do not push it to hard. How much do they want for the 1200? How old is it? If your looking seriously to buy it maybe the owner can show you how it all works. I know switching from planer to sander you have to switch heads on the 725…. Mine has the spirial cutting head on it and I just use it as a planer. Good Machine though….. I know the new model 712 to get sanding,planing,rip and moulding could run you close to 3k…. For that I buy a nice 13 in dedicated planer and another dedicated sander for less money….

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#4 posted 11-17-2012 08:22 PM

I have both the Proformax 16-32 drum sander and Stockroom’s Supply V-Drum sander.

The Proformax sandwiches the wood between a conveyor bent and the sanding paper drum. This does not use hook and loop (Velcro) paper. It has clips on each end to hold the sand paper. This type of sander can burn the wood (and sand paper) if you try to take too deep of a pass. There are additional problems if the sandpaper loads up with saw dust. I sometimes have problems getting the paper tight enough while winding it on the drum and then under the clips.

The V-Drum sander only uses hook and loop paper. I have problems with the ends of the sand paper coming loose during use. I suspect that the hook and loop weakens during use. It will start flapping against the table. Due to the design, there is no burning and the paper does not load.

-- Jesse, Saint Louis, Missouri

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#5 posted 11-17-2012 08:41 PM

Jesse, On the shopfox which is the hook and loop, same problem on the ends sometimes….... I took elec tape and made 1 pass around, tightly though, it does help….. The SuperMax uses clips on each end as well….. Same design…. by same Designers…..

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#6 posted 11-17-2012 08:51 PM

I would end up having 350 into it with gas to go get it. He took it in on trade and has not used it. He says it works and from the pics he sent it looks to be in good shape. Other than that really no other knowledge of it. I would definitely try prior to buying though

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#7 posted 11-17-2012 08:54 PM

Worth checking out for sure…... Just check it out, blades, belts, any weird noises, drum for the sander ect ect…. It all checks out I do not think it is out of line for 350 bucks….

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#8 posted 11-19-2012 01:26 AM

I don’t know about other brands but my whimpy Delta has an open sanding drum. I found out the if you don’t regulary blow the dust build up out of it the dust will act as an insulator and cause the work to heat up and burn. Keeping it cleaned out will keep things running cooler.

Rick

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#9 posted 11-19-2012 01:35 AM

Thanks for the replies guys. Planning on getting it after Thanksgiving. I’ll keep you posted on how it goes

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#10 posted 11-19-2012 02:43 AM

Stargazer, Thank you! I didn’t know that.

-- Art

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#11 posted 11-20-2012 03:05 PM

Stargazer, Thank you! I didn’t know that.

Yep, and it affects the drum balance as well.

Rick

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#12 posted 11-20-2012 03:19 PM

At that price I would be surprised if it lasted long. We have the 725 but only use it to cut molding and for planing. We do have a dual drum sander steel city, it has the clips on both sides to hold the sand paper, I also wrapped it in Velcro bought from supergrit.com. we never have any problems with burning or issues with the paper, UNLESS, we use the sander wrong. So any issues we ever have is user error. Otherwise the combination of using the front and rear clips along with the Velcro keeps the paper tight. Is be all over that 712 as quick as I could.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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#13 posted 11-20-2012 03:37 PM

I have taked to the guy and looked at several pics of it. It looks extremely clean. I’ll be going on the road trip to go get it next week. I’ll post pics of it in this thread. It is wired 220. I’m in the process of rewiring the garage and don’t have 220 yet. I was going to wire it up 110 until I get 220 in there. Can anyone see any issues with this?

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#14 posted 11-22-2012 01:07 AM

I am not sure but I think most of Woodmaster planers are 5 hp. I am not an electrician but I do not believe you can wire a 5 hp motor on 110. I think anything over 2 hp needs to be a 220. If it is not a 5 hp like I suspect, it likely is not less than 3 hp. So I would advice you get 220 set up in your shop. That should not be that difficult.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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#15 posted 11-22-2012 01:25 AM

I believe this has a 2 hp baldor motor. Currently wired 220. I won’t have 220 in my garage for several more weeks. I have a big Christmas order to knock out that my mom got for me so I will most likely try to wire it up 110 for the time being.

BTW…... Jerry, I’m originally from Uvalde, Tx (80 miles west of S.A). This order is going to the Jourdanton/Pleasanton area. I’m a Corporate Pilot by trade and am hoping to step up my woodworking biz and get a little extra money coming in to help out. I’m in the process of getting a good TS and sander.

Thanks again top all those who have replied and put in their 2 cents

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