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622 days ago

I usually apply Watco Danish Oil, usual coats, then dry for 72 hrs. then Gel Top Coat “Satin finish”, then Minwax Paste Wax.

Now, I think I’ll try the Watco, dry as usual, Arm R Seal, then Goddard’s Cabinet Makers Paste (WHERE CAN I FIND IT FOR SALE ONLINE) Wax or Black Bison “Clear” , and be done.

comment’s?

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#1 posted 622 days ago

Wax is not much in the way of protection .

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#2 posted 622 days ago

yup. but I would think 3-4 coats of Watco would suffice,
trying to cut down on finishing steps, always looking for a simpler way.
Do not enjoy wet sanding a

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#3 posted 622 days ago

Watco is probably less protection than wax. I usually do 2 coats of natural danish oil, let it dry for about a week, then either rub on Arm-R-Seal or shoot some semi-gloss poly. I rub out the poly with wax. I would be broke using this method in production though. My finishing cycle is generally about 15 to 20 days.

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#4 posted 621 days ago

Watco, 2 coat’s, then Arm R Seal satin, 2 coat’s, Wax a way…......a week later, done…Jeez

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#5 posted 618 days ago

what surface (floor, bench, covered, not covered) I mean where do you apply this flood type coat on the piece, where does the drippings go or the mess, seeing as it’s highly combustible, how do you keep safe, not just the rags, but the surface your placing the object to oil?

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#6 posted 618 days ago

Try Arm-R-Seal. One coat is all for a top coat. Pretty tough stuff.

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#7 posted 618 days ago

what surface (floor, bench, covered, not covered) I mean where do you apply this flood type coat on the piece, where does the drippings go or the mess, seeing as it’s highly combustible, how do you keep safe, not just the rags, but the surface your placing the object to oil?

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#8 posted 618 days ago

Russ, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a 1 coat finish. Never mind protection, you need at least 2 or 3 coats to have enough build to sand/rub out the finish. Arm-R-Seal is a wiping varnish, and as such is pretty skimpy on the solids. For any meaningful amount of protection, you want at least 3 to 4 coats.

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#9 posted 618 days ago

I have a serious question because I see this combo used alot. Why the danish oil first, is it being used for color ? What is the purpose ?

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#10 posted 618 days ago

Charles, I use it to bring out figured grain in pieces I do not stain. I find it pops grain better than just using Arm-r-seal. I always test finishes on scraps of the same wood, and I find the danish oil does the best job (I have tried straight poly, shellac, and danish oil). I’ve tried using just boiled linseed oil, but it takes forever to dry (if it ever dries). I find my “danish oil” (1/3 BLO, 1/3 mineral spirits, 1/3 poly) dries faster, and actually does dry.

I’d be open to suggestions of popping out the figure in unstained pieces before finishing. Lately I’ve been spraying my finishes with MUCH better results. GF enduro sprays really well and looks awesome.

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#11 posted 618 days ago

Steve, it’s not the liquid that is combustible. Compressed rags that have been soaked in DO/Linseed oil are combustible. I have a finishing table that is just a bench with a large piece of melamine on it. The Melamine cleans up easily.

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#12 posted 618 days ago

While all oils have the issue with spontaneous combustion, Linseed is the worst, its sort of an oxidizer, so its far more reactive and heat causing, BLO on metal ( oxidizer) is not a good idea .

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#13 posted 616 days ago

QUESTION:
I applied a coat of Watco Danish Oil Natural today to the two Cherry panels for head board.
I am having a blotchy-ness issue.
I applied heavy, let sit 30 mins. applied again let sit 15, then wiped dry.
See pic:


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#14 posted 616 days ago

On any light colored wood I always use a color conditioner first. You never know when this can happen and a small sample may not show the blotch as good as a large sheet.

On the bright side, this will likely go away in a couple days. Good thing it was only oil and not stain.

With oil I never let it sit thick on the work. I apply and wipe off right away. leaving the oil on does nothing, whatever oil is on it sank in right away and more will only saturate the looser fibers on top. Give it a good pre color conditioner like Charles Neil and several applications of oil wiping excess off right away.

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#15 posted 616 days ago

@Russell
should I let it sit for a few days, and see what’s up?
So, when i apply the oil on wet, I should wipe it off right away?
I was just doing it the way I have before…let it sit then re-apply and wipe dry.

I’ll try, next time to wipe and dry.
What can I do to get rid of the blotches on these laborous Cherry Panels, before I Arm-R-Seal??

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