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Jonathan

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623 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: copper empire top saver renaissance wax copper pipe

I have a bottle of Empire Top Saver that I use on my table saw and other cast iron surfaces. It works nicely for this. My question is: Has anybody ever used this on other metals to help protect against tarnishing? And more specifically used it on copper?

I made a sculpture recently using a piece of copper pipe and some corks. I applied a layer of Renaissance Wax and it seems to be doing an OK job of slowing down the tarnishing of the copper, but it appears that it’s not stopping the tarnishing. Not sure if I just need to put lots of layers of wax on, or what? I figured I’d give the Top Saver a try if that might work, since I have it handy.

At this point, I’m not necessarily looking to go out and buy something else to apply to the copper, but I may end up doing that if I can’t come up with a satisfactory solution with what I already have available.

I also have no interest in putting a coat of lacquer over the copper.

Thanks for any help and/or useful information you may be able to provide.

-- Jonathan, Denver, CO "Constructive criticism is welcome and valued as it gives me new perspectives and helps me to advance as a woodworker."


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Charlie

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#1 posted 623 days ago

Is this piece indoors or outdoors? I do copper sculpture on occasion and for anything indoors, I get the patina I want and then spray it with lacquer. That pretty much stops any further changes. If it’s outdoors, all bets are off. Wax won’t stop the weathering and anything you DO put on it will wear off. Mother nature is a tough taskmaster. You can slow it down considerably outside by spraying with an automotive clear lacquer, but eventually it’s going to weather.

I have some gun treatment I was going to try but haven’t done a copper piece to try it on yet. :)

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#2 posted 623 days ago

Charlie,

This is an inside piece, meant to be suspended from the ceiling. I have noticed that with just 1-coat of the Renaissance Wax on it, fingerprints wipe off very easily, although it appears the oil from my fingers still slightly gets through to the copper. Again, maybe I just need more coats built-up, but I didn’t want to go doing that just yet if there’s a better solution.

I didn’t even think of something like Hoppe’s (or a similar product), for instance.

I know that lacquer would be the best solution, but I don’t want to go that route. I’m not necessarily looking for “zero maintenance,” but rather “low maintenance”.

Thanks for the response.

-- Jonathan, Denver, CO "Constructive criticism is welcome and valued as it gives me new perspectives and helps me to advance as a woodworker."

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jack1

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#3 posted 623 days ago

You might check with someone with a good chemical background. I’ve only been able to keep copper from totally green by not touching it or spraying with laquer. Might be something else though

-- jack -- ...measure once, curse twice!

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#4 posted 623 days ago

Still doing some research here. I may end up spraying lacquer after all. I think it’ll ultimately do the best job. I’ll just have to strip the first coat of wax off before proceeding. I’ll continue to update this as I figure out what I’m going to do, or find any other helpful information, on the off chance that it may benefit someone else here on LJs.

-- Jonathan, Denver, CO "Constructive criticism is welcome and valued as it gives me new perspectives and helps me to advance as a woodworker."

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