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11-07-2012 12:48 PM

I was contacted by one of my clients about making a job similar to this. I’m looking forward to the challenge.
The only thing is it’s going on a landing, the left side of it will be against a hand rail and ballustrades.
I can’t get the image of Lee Remick plunging to her death in the 1976 film ‘The Omen’ out of my head.

Am I worrying unnecessarily? What’s a Jock to do?

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#1 posted 11-07-2012 01:26 PM

Hmm… tough one. Maybe some handrails on the ladder? An attractive ‘panel’ above the balustrade to increase the height?

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#2 posted 11-07-2012 01:30 PM

i like the idea of a handrail on that side of the ladder.

-- Joel

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#3 posted 11-07-2012 01:49 PM

Caveat emptor.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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#4 posted 11-07-2012 02:03 PM

Caveat emptor. I like that.
I don’t imagine a stream of people going up and down that little ladder, my client doesn’t have any children yet, and that really would be my biggest concern, though I could always advise her to store the ladder away for a few years if she does start a family.

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#5 posted 11-07-2012 09:25 PM

It would appear from the pic that the ladder may be for show more than use. I would be more worried about tripping over the ladder that will undoubtedly be sticking out onto the landing all of the time. Take the commission, build it and as was said above, let the buyer beware. I think your clients placement idea leaves a bit to be desired, but then again that’s only my opinion, and I could be wrong.

-- "Standing tall has nothing to do with height"

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#6 posted 11-07-2012 09:27 PM

Hopefully the client doesn’t have any small kids.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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#7 posted 11-07-2012 09:43 PM

or possessed ones :) You might want to mention to your client that if any child named “Damien” whose face is identical to an old painting of the antichrist comes to visit, might be a good idea to stay on the ground level.

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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#8 posted 11-07-2012 09:45 PM

I’m not sure but I think as the contractor, you might be liable for the safety of your product. It’s like when I was building stairs, I had to follow building code and that meant I couldn’t build them without hand rails, or with over 4” between balusters, etc. I know contractors break code all the time, but they do so at the risk of somebody getting injured and suing them.

-- I support the 28th Amendment.

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#9 posted 11-08-2012 12:41 AM

Have you considered an old-fashioned library chair? The kind that looks like a chair but has a hinged back which converts the chair into a small step-ladder. Here’s a link to just one sample:
Your client could keep it in an adjacent room, bringing it out only when needed. And she could use one hand to hold onto the bookcase to keep herself steady and safe.

-- Thermaloy

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#10 posted 11-08-2012 02:43 AM

If there are no tricycles allowed in the house I don’t see a problem.
Even if there were, how could they get up to speed on a landing? Too short by far.

-- gene@toronto.ontario.canada : dovetail free since '53, critiques always welcome.

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#11 posted 11-08-2012 04:53 AM

Another thought would be to make the unit L shaped. One section’s back against the rail and balustrades. If the end portion is anchored to the rest of the unit, then pressure wouldn’t be on the rails when the ladder is used. Less risk of losing your balance and taking a plunge over the rail.

Gene, I loved your comment.


-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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#12 posted 11-08-2012 08:06 AM

Make metal bar span only two sections (middle and right) of the bookshelf. This way you can’t place the ladder right next to the balustrades. The user can still reach the left section while standing in the middle.

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#13 posted 11-14-2012 03:00 AM

build it from floor to ceiling so its mounted at the top and bottom

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