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Forum topic by poopiekat posted 11-05-2012 12:43 AM 973 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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poopiekat

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11-05-2012 12:43 AM

We all tend to move on, a hot topic one day becomes boring old news the next time you log in. This is true of some threads in the forums for sure. I was just looking at a website for an upcoming truck and heavy machinery auction, and one dually diesel caught my eye. It had the logo emblazoned on it on all four sides, ‘XYZ Construction’ or whatever it was. So, it jogged my memory right away: We had a thread here a while ago, somebody trying to find out how to remove vinyl decals from the side of his van or truck. As I recall, there was about 15 replies. There was never any follow-up, despite the wide range of responses. So, firstly, does anybody know what method(s) was successful? I’m really only asking, because the OP put it out there, then we were all left hanging. There was no conclusive method to be certain of, and we don’t know how the OP made out with it. Hey, we wanna know!
This is also true of questions about sourcing repair parts, and quite a few “whatizzits” posted, when there is no definitive, positive ID made on a posted object. Even when somebody asks for a referral, like, ‘Where can I buy cherry lumber in western Virginia’, (like, I SHOULD have that problem!) and a few souces are recommended, we never seem to know what the OP did, where he went, what he bought, and whether he was happy with the outcome. Hey, guys, we really do want to know which of our responses actually ever did any good!
It’s part of the LJ experience. Feedback is nice.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!


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oluf

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#1 posted 11-05-2012 12:57 AM

A very good point. This site is set up to have feed back work well. If it takes you a week or two to work through the issue you had asked about you can bring it right back to current again. Just go to your original posting and post a comment telling how the suggestions woeked out for you. Your original post and all the comments will be at the top of the topic you posted and if you say thank you everyone will be able to see it.

-- Nils, So. Central MI. Wood is honest.Take the effort to understand what it has to tell you before you try to change it.

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patron

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#2 posted 11-05-2012 01:12 AM

good point poop

common courtesy seems to be
to much trouble for some

i have gotten tired of answering some blogs/forums
for just that reason
or taking a couple of minuets to google
and add a link

never to hear a word

as the site grows more each day
and with smart phone in general use
i wonder how many join just to have another ‘social media’ place
to gab on
like the comments on yahoo news
all totally anonymous and some downright nasty

it seems that many in today’s world
just post or comment
to be seen or heard

like

‘hey im alive …..
....... is anybody out there ?

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#3 posted 11-05-2012 01:14 AM

I’ve often asked OP’s for more info on their projects and still waiting for a reply …some years have gone by on some of them : ( Do they make a post and then just leave the site ??

-- I'm absolutely positive that I couldn't be more uncertain!

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#4 posted 11-05-2012 01:19 AM

I just accept that with public forums and such there will always be those who get the advice they were looking for and never bother taking the minute or so to follow up. Very inconsiderate, in my opinion, but that’s just the nature of open forums.

As for removing truck lettering, I bought a white cargo van from a locksmith some years back, which had his company lettering painted on the sides. I managed to remove 99.8% of it with denatured alcohol, although it did leave a slight “ghost” image of the lettering, which I assume had bled into the truck’s paint and would never come out without taking the paint with it. Anyway, test a hidden spot first, just to be sure it doesn’t dissolve more than you intend.

I believe I posted about this in the thread you mention.

-- I support the 28th Amendment. http://www.wolf-pac.com/28th

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#5 posted 11-05-2012 01:22 AM

Yeah, I also agree PK. A follow up really isn’t asking a lot, plus it may help in ending some of the conjecture. Apparently it is too much effort?

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#6 posted 11-05-2012 01:26 AM

Removing truck lettering . . . I’ve spent many years, many years ago, running a couple of auto body shops, and was asked frequently to remove truck lettering. If you’re going to re-letter over it, following the advice about finding a solvent for the lettering that won’t take off the paint is the go-to solution. If, however, your aim is to make the door (or wherever) look like it had never been lettered, you’ll most likely have to take off all the finish, right down to the metal. I’ve tried numerous times to just go to the primer and repaint the door, and those “ghost letters” would always show. Sometimes they were really hard to see, but the were there. I believe the lettering, over time and UV exposure, actually alters the molecular structure of the substrates, right down to and including the primer.

Cheers!

-- Skip, Forestville, CA, http://www.sonomastainedglass.com

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#7 posted 11-05-2012 03:56 PM

Feedback, whether its given or received, is why we’re all here so we can learn. Whether its in the receiving of information that aids us in our endeavors, or in the giving of information that aids one in their endeavors.
For the receiver comes the vast wealth of knowledge to aid them in their craft, while the giver receives the self validation of how much knowledge they have gained in their craft, as well as learning new methods to add to their experience in their craft.

While I try to follow up as much as possible, there are times I slip up and drop the momentum. It seems as though the fast pace of our society today has brought on an old affliction. I have this problem of mind over matter. If its not on my mind it don’t matter. Needless to say this gets me in trouble with the wife at times. I’ve noticed that I don’t seem to be the only one to have this affliction as well.

While I may not receive feedback for my efforts. I do receive the self satisfaction of knowing that I have given something back to the craft that I share with so many others.

I no longer use the search feature here due to the lack of feedback on subject matter of subjects, I’ve had an interest in. Which is sad for those new in the craft that could benefit from the feedback on what works and doesn’t work. As with the vinyl lettering removal I have no answers or interest at this time, while at a later time this could be valuable feedback information I may need.

Good thread Poopiekat

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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#8 posted 11-05-2012 06:14 PM

I agree PK, but I think the issue is mostly with new people to this site. They haven’t been here to really appreciate the fact that people do care and want to know what the result was.

However there are others who have been here a while, post amazing work, get a hundred replies and never reply back thanking everyone for looking and adding a comment. Kind of annoying and makes me not want to give them anymore love on their project posts.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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OggieOglethorpe

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#9 posted 11-05-2012 08:21 PM

Over the years, I’ve found that some folks are just not very web saavy, and/or don’t get online often.

Put the two factors together, and you get someone who doesn’t understand how to use the watch list, or their own “home” page history here on Lumberjocks, and the thread has filtered down in the listings. I truly believe there are some folks who simply can’t find their own threads. These same folks often don’t understand much of the inner workings of sites like this, seeing web forums as manned by employees.

Marc Spagnolo recently had a topic on his forum, and the “WoodTalkOnline” podcast, titled “This Forum Sucks”. The topic covered folks who post a question, then complain that it isn’t answered fast enough, or exactly as they expected. In many cases, users may actually believe a public forum is staffed by professionals waiting to deal with questions, not a wide range of folks contributing as they see fit.

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Don W

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#10 posted 11-05-2012 08:24 PM

this is a common theme in most public forums. Its one of the reason you need to be a member to post. People will post a question and never come back to even see if somebody posted something helpful.

Unfortunately rudeness isn’t a crime its just rude.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#11 posted 11-05-2012 08:26 PM

I think the problem is that the post keeps going long after the poster has resolved or been answered. Also, (I’ve done this) you just get too many answers or ways of doing something. I hate to be rude, but I have to unfollow those posts.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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teejk

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#12 posted 11-05-2012 08:43 PM

I think Ted has it…Google brings them here for a single issue and if the opinions posted work, they move on. Most likely they have a single project with simple tools and feel no need to help others.

Which reminds me about posting a pix of my little wine rack! tomorrow I promise (even though nobody here offered any help on it).

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knotscott

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#13 posted 11-05-2012 08:44 PM

Not following up on a post or question is a pet peeve of mine too….try as I might to shrug it off. I understand that it goes with the territory to some degree, but it still bugs me….simply put, it’s rude not to at least participate in your own post in some small way. Whether they become an active member or not is unimportant to me, but some acknowledgement is just good manners. The info is free with no obligation, but it’s not without effort. I’m happy to help if I can if I at least know that the OP has read the info. Like Dusty56 and others, I’ll often post a probing question before investing a lot of time and effort into a reply that’ll be ignored.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Sylvain

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#14 posted 11-05-2012 09:08 PM

it seems if you want a lot of replies, you have to interact, at least to keep your post on the most recent ones.
I agree that stating what was finally decided and whether it worked or not would be

1. polite and
2. informative for the others looking for a similar problem.

Sometime also it is hard to understand what the post is about.

-- Sylvain, Brussels, Belgium, Europe - The more I learn, the more there is to learn

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David Craig

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#15 posted 11-05-2012 09:25 PM

Good post PK, and good point Russ. The quantity of information is sometimes a factor here I think. I enjoy participating in the problem solving, but will notice that my post is adding to 50 other posts of things to try. An experienced person in the shop will usually take what suggestions sound good, try things, and report progress. Someone new might just be holding their hands over their eyes and saying “Please make it stop…” We are sometimes like the sorcerers apprentice, once we come to life, there is no magic word to get us to stop.

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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