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cpg

6 posts in 114 days


112 days ago

So I have three tape measures now. One old, a new 16’ and a really new 25’. Since I’m new at this I am so worried that I will mess up a cut or something and I check fence setup and part size like three or four times. I noticed the other day that the end metal hook ( don’t know if it has a proper name) of my tape measure is loose. It is held on/in place by three metal pieces. It slide back and forth by 1/16”. So I got out another. Pinned in place by thee metal pieces, it moves by 1/8”. Even the old ( 10-15 years old) one, which the end is pinned in place by two metal things, move, though it moves the least. Is this normal? Is there a better kind or brand?

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John Gray

883 posts in 422 days


112 days ago

It’s normal the end piece slides to do both inside and outside measurments. You can check it easily with a combination square.
More information here:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLL_en&q=sliding+end+tape+measure

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kolwdwrkr

474 posts in 127 days


112 days ago

It’s supposed to move back and forth to accomodate for the thickness of the “hook”. If it didn’t slide it would read different if you hook it then it would if you bump it. If it moves to much though you’re in trouble. One thing you could do is start cutting an inch when you measure. No tape measure reads the same because of the hook. If you drop it the hook gets bent, or you may get some glue on it that you forget about. The hook has to move to be accurate.

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Christopher

199 posts in 457 days


112 days ago

yeah, they shoud move as John said so you can measure inside and outside a box for instance. I use a Stanley and a Craftsmen, both 12’ but they are rarely out more then 4’.

-- Sometimes when I am building something and it is out of square, I just bend my square.

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cpg

6 posts in 114 days


112 days ago

So simple I feel dumb for not thinking of that. No wonder some of me cuts have been off by be trying to compensate for it moving. Now I feel like a real idiot.

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Quixote

118 posts in 175 days


112 days ago

This is normal. You want some movement of this lip, or “tang” end.

The movement is supposed to be the exact width of the tang, or angled foot on the end.

This is designed to give you the same measurement weather you use the tang compressed up against your point, or hooked over the edge.

With use the rivets and the holes for the rivets can wear and allow the tang to float more than the width of lip and give false readings. These are extremely noticeable if you use one tape for measuring and another for final marking. (been there, done that as much as an 1/8th” or 3mm).

Use your carpenter square to check dimensions for both extended and compressed tang movement.

Hope this helps.

Q

Edit, my typing is so slow, that five guys answered in the time I started typing. This is a wonderful community where so many folks are ready to jump in and help.

Another interesting feature of the tang is the horizontal slot that allows you to ‘set’ the tang on a nail head, it fits in deep enough that your center point for the nail is the starting point for your measurement…

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Betsy

1886 posts in 433 days


112 days ago

The other thing to remember, while small, is to use the same tape/measuring stick throughout your project. That way you are always using the same scale.

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Steelmum

198 posts in 499 days


111 days ago

Betsy’s tip is more valuable than it seems. Very simple, but if you always use the same tape measure you will always be right. That way 11 inches measured today is the same as 11 inches measured tomorrow.

-- Berta in NC

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marcb

199 posts in 210 days


111 days ago

Don’t feel dumb, I never knew that for years, always thought my tape was busted. I managed to learn it just after getting into woodworking which saved me from your problem. But it was by coincidence.

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Grumpy

6717 posts in 388 days


111 days ago

All good advice there cpg but I only trust the using the end of the tape measure for measurements other than those for real accuracy. The moveable clip can be inaccurate & some tend to ride over an edge giving the wrong result. For accuracy I use a point along the tape as a starting point & then make allowance after I take the measurement.

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tenontim

960 posts in 281 days


111 days ago

I do the same thing Grumpy does for inside measurements. I usually start at 10, that way the other number is always the same (after you subtract the 10). It’s also a good idea to compare your tapes and rulers for accuracy or least that they all read the same. I had one rule that matched everything else on one side, but the graduations on the other were off about 1/8”. I took some lacquer thinner and removed the numbers from that side, so I wouldn’t mistakenly use it. Match up your table saw indicator too, while your at it.

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HokieMojo

414 posts in 265 days


111 days ago

yeah, don’t feel bad. for years i thought that it was caused by letting the tape measure snap back into the case. most people probably thought their tape measures were “loose” just like you. at least both of us aren’t alone.

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teenagewoodworker

2135 posts in 305 days


111 days ago

its totally normal. you can check out this video on tape measures and learn all about them

http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1578614295&channel=1305141082

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Bureaucrat

118 posts in 189 days


111 days ago

Don’t feel bad about not knowing this. At least you didn’t get out a center punch and bash the rivets till the tang couldn’t move.

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brunob

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111 days ago

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john

813 posts in 918 days


111 days ago

I hardly even use a tape , i just go by eye .lol

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Zuki

941 posts in 614 days


110 days ago

Interesting post. The loose end drives me crazy. If making a smaller measurement (<16> to get the true measurement.

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