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I Want this Saw - (This Grizzly has all if not more features) than the Laguna, I'm converted

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LAGUNA 4HP Table Saw - Platinum 52" Fence
Dovetail Trunion, Model# MTS0300.
What a beauty. I seen this in a show and it was taken apart and re-assembled. I like that, no hidden cameras.
The internals are something to behold.*
AS MUCH AS I LIKE THE LAGUNA, I NEVER REALLY INVESTIGATED THIS GRIZZ.

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It's a nice saw but look very closely. They're pretty darn similar from what I see in the manuals from both websites. Unless something has changed recently, it's my understanding that the saws come from the same plant and are made from the same parts. Laguna has a dealer network for support, and Grizzly is a direct importer that offers lower pricing. The Griz is only available in 3hp with this model though….$1545 shipped vs $2195

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I'm wondering if Laguna has an update that's not captured in their manual, because neither of those look like dovetail with vertical rise to me….they both have swing arms, part 201 is part of the riving knife mount. The G1023RL series has vertical rise.
 
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The old INCA 2100 and 2200 cabinet saws have a dovetailed
trunnion. I had two 2200s. The design kept a very consistent
blade centerline at all depths. Also, it simplifies adding a
riving knife to the design.

That said, there are some other features I'd rather have
than a dovetailed trunnion if buying a new saw… not that
I'd say "no" to the dovetail. It worked well on the INCA,
though it did require regular cleaning and waxing.
 
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Holy ********************!
It does…look…just LIKE a freaking Grizzly, wt---
Did I see that, why is it almost EXACTLY the same looking saw!
Wow, do ya think they get it from the same Tiawaneezeee island?
That is truly messed up.
 
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I think we should pass some consumer laws in America that places like grizzly and jet and even HF must disclose the originating mfgr. All we get is fooled into paying more for the same stuff just because it has a decal on it.
I mean, how many places actually diecast this stuff in the world anyway?
 
#22 ·
I still have no comment on Laguna's support, I know I find their machines have an appealing fit & finish.
I, myself have never owned one, but I have spoken to their support dept. since this diatribe.
I found them very eager to please, and that goes with them WANTING me to buy equipt.
But, whether or not they suck…I dunno. I do know I can get a decent saw from Grizzly, and I just may drive down there to see everything they have for myself. Be kinda fun…I spent my X-honeymoon in the Pocono Mountains, PA, long drive but scenic.
Thank's all
 
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Keep in mind that neither Laguna nor Grizzly has their own plants where these saws are made AFAIK, at least not for all their tools…few companies own their own plants anymore, which is one of the reasons I urge folks not to group tools together based on brand name….there's often little correlation between models.

The comment about the original Laguna Platinum and the G0690 being from the same plant and made from the same materials came from the owner of Grizzly, Shiraz Balolia….he's a very credible guy IMO. As mentioned earlier, it look like that the original Platinum design has changed, and the manual has been updated on their website just since yesterday (it's tough to keep up!). The G0690 and Laguna Platinum no longer look the same to me.

Below is the new manual diagram with vertical elevation with dovetail ways:

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The G1023RL is a newer design and definitely has a vertical elevation mechanism, and looks to me like it has dovetail ways as part of that mechanism (part #60).

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