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Forum topic by chrisstef posted 10-22-2012 08:19 PM 2181 views 3 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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chrisstef

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10-22-2012 08:19 PM

All right gang, ive been using the WS300 for almost 6 months now and i like it, i like it a lot, but as we all know the paper wears out kinda quick and is darn expensive. What do you guys use for replacement paper and where do you buy it from? Straight from the manufacturer or after market?

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty


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#1 posted 10-22-2012 09:56 PM

For the coarse grits, I buy round sheets from Lowes. They are pretty cheap and all I have to do is poke the hole in the middle after I stick it to the glass plate. I have yet to wear out the really fine grits from WS. Easy and cost effective.

-- Mike

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#2 posted 10-22-2012 10:06 PM

I like your style para. Ive done a lot of reshaping so my 120 grit went quick.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#3 posted 10-22-2012 10:47 PM

Chris, ya pays your money and ya takes your chances. Check out local auto supply shops for quality paper, or look at Klingspor.

Lemme get back to my waterstones now that I have shed that bit of…....whatever.
Bill

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#4 posted 10-22-2012 10:50 PM

I get the low grits from auto parts stores. The p80 thru like 400 pretty easy to find there, seems to peel off easy, which is also a plus. The higher grits, as mentioned, seem to last longer. But, I need some new 3600grit soon.

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#5 posted 10-22-2012 11:02 PM

I really only use the WS for rough shaping, with 60 or 80 grit paper and I use the stropping disc a lot. I also use waterstones and use them only for honing. I found that the two systems work together very nicely. And for the really coarse work, I use my hand grinder.

To be honest, were it not for the HD price mixup with the WS 3000 about two years ago, I probably wouldn’t have bought one. But now that I have it, it definitely fills a niche spot in my shop.

-- Mike

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#6 posted 10-22-2012 11:09 PM

Shane, thanks for the tip.

Bill – enjoy your stones.

Para – It fills that spot in my shop too. Ive really been trying to dial in all my hand tools. Chisels, planes, spokeshaves. I tend to work in batches so its nice to sit down and line up a bunch of irons or chisels and go to work. If theyre way out of whack some used 80 grit on the belt sander works really well for me, then off to the WS, and finish with a strop. Im getting sharp and very sharp at that but with some of my tools its a bit of a process. My witherby chisels still arent there yet. More grits are in order.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#7 posted 10-22-2012 11:11 PM

I’ve found that the 3M wet or dry sandpaper that you can buy at auto parts stores. Use 3M Super 77 spray adhesive to stick it on the glass plates. I’ve found the 2,000 grit paper for my final sharpening grit. It seems to leave a shinier tool than the micro mesh discs you can buy for the Work Sharp.

I got a series of higher grit Micro mesh from Scientific Instrument Supply. (you can get 8,000 and 12,000 Micro mesh from them. Finer than the 6,000 you get with the Work Sharp)). I wasn’t impressed and I don’t think the 12,000 micro mesh did any better than the sandpaper.

The Klingspor store has sanding discs for the Work Sharp. They are stearated and last forever and cut fast. But they only go up to 1,000 grit or so, which is not fine enough. So I substitute the 3M paper for higher grits.

To get the spray glued sandpaper off you’ll need turpentine.

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#8 posted 10-22-2012 11:22 PM

Chris, seems like we use the same methods. Stay sharp!

-- Mike

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#9 posted 10-22-2012 11:56 PM

Solid info purrmaster. Ive had my eye on the klinspor for all my sanding tasks and now sounds like a good time to jump on in with it. I was going up to 2000 grit ala scary sharp but i think ill go up to 3600 this time around with glued down paper.

Para – sharp like a marble brother ;)

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#10 posted 10-23-2012 02:30 AM

Veritas MKII and Norton oil stones :)

That is one of the reasons I sold my WS3000 (expensive paper). The other is I think everyone should learn to sharpen with a stone. It’s a great skill

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#11 posted 10-23-2012 03:07 AM

I thought I’d post some links. It can be kind of hard to find the Klingspor assortment:

For the Klingspor:

http://www.woodworkingshop.com/product/sd06199/

This is two discs of each grit from 80 to 1,000. These are great. The stearate means you rarely have to clean the discs with the rubber block. They cut fast and last a long time.

The downside is that you’ll want to go higher than 1,000 grit.

Here’s where to get the Micro Mesh:

http://www.sisweb.com/micromesh/mmr_discs.htm#6_0_psa

Look for the “variety pack” under the 6 inch, no hole adhesive discs. You can also get them individually. I’ve found anything below 8,000 grit on Micro Mesh is kind of pointless. You’ll get better results with 2,000 grit sandpaper. Work Sharp only sells the discs up to 6,000 of Micro Mesh.

You find this useful as well: http://www.sisweb.com/micromesh/conversion.htm

Micro Mesh grits are not the same as regular sandpaper grits. For example, Micro Mesh at 4,000 grit is equivalent to wet or dry sandpaper at 1,500 grit. Hence why I think any grades of Micro Mesh below 8,000 are less useful than the cheaper and faster sandpaper.

A couple of words of warning though: I’ve found that the Micro Mesh doesn’t seem to do much, if anything. I get shinier chisels from the 3M sandpaper than I do from Micro Mesh. In fact, I can’t usually even tell if the Micro Mesh is doing anything at all on the Work Sharp. Also, when I used the 12,000 grit Micro Mesh disc my chisels tore it up some. I didn’t have that problem with any of the lower grits.

I have found that Klingspor wet or dry sand paper is NOT the same as the 3M sandpaper. I got a noticeably coarser results with Klingspor 2,000 grit than I did with 3M 2,000 grit. I can’t speak directly to their discs as I haven’t found high grit 3M discs.

Norton’s higher grits appear to be the same as the 3M grits. So I recommend 3M or Norton paper.

You can also find small sheets of 2,500 grit of the 3M paper.

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#12 posted 10-23-2012 04:36 PM

Joe – not to break your stones but sharpneing on stones with a honing guide aint much different than using the worksharp. You’re still relying on a tool to hold a specific angle and abrading all the same, whether it be sandpaper or a stone IMO.

Purrmaster – killer killer info on that. Getting through their website was tough going for me. Its awfully confusing. Ill be stocking up on the 2 packs of the lower grit stuff from klingspor. Gonna do a little hunting for the higher grit stuff.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#13 posted 10-24-2012 05:19 AM

If you can find stick on discs for 1,500 and 2,000 grit (from any manufacturer) please let me know. I just ordered some sheets of 3M 2,000 and 2,500 grit sandpaper to glue onto the WorkSharp glass wheels. The downside is that sandpaper glued on is much more likely to rip than sanding discs. And 2,000 grit paper don’t last very long when used dry. Which is unsurprising considering it was designed for that.

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#14 posted 10-25-2012 08:48 AM

Wasn’t designed for that, I meant. I really need to proof read my posts.

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#15 posted 10-25-2012 02:27 PM

Purr – ive found some of the higer grit stuff but i t looks like its packs of 100 or packs of 50, not very economical but im gonna keep looking around, its out there, i know it.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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