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DIYaholic

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10-17-2012 08:56 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question grizzly craigslist 16 bandsaw

There is a 16” Grizzly Bandsaw, that I have an opportunity to purchase for $200.00. I could use the help of the “collective” in determining if this is a good saw and worth purchasing. I was looking at a new 14” Grizzly Deluxe G0555LX ($445.00) or possibly the 14” Grizzly Extreme G0555X ($795.00), so would this be a “better” saw, not neccessarily just a bigger saw?

My situation:
I’ve been slowly amassing a collection of tools/machines to outfit my WW shop. CL has been very, very good to me, however, I only have a cr@ppy B&D 9” BS as of now. I’m not 100% sure what my real needs are, but I want some resawing capability along with quality cuts for ripping and cutting curves. I can not shell out the “BIG” bucks for a 17” Rikon or the likes, plus my shop is an the small side so the footpint is a consideration. I would be traveling 475 miles to visit relatives and maybe purchase this saw. In acuality, I would purchase this saw and visit relatives while I’m “in the neighborhood”!!! ;)

Here are some of the vitals:
1.5 HP motor
10” resaw capacity
NO Fence
No mobile base
In an eMail, the current owner states: “It is 1 ½ hp resaw is 10” grisley 16” condition is excellent we are a cabinet shop and only used it rarely to cut curves no fences. No mobile base. Pictures attached.”

Here is the “eye candy”, err, pictures:

Any & all information, tips, advice and wisdom is needed and appreciated!!!
It doesn’t look like there is a “riser block”, is there one available for this saw?
Is this a “Great”, “Good” or a “Steer Clear” type of saw?
What does the “collective” say, shall I assimilate this BS into my shop?

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?


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cabmaker

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#1 posted 10-17-2012 09:26 PM

Randy I had I believe that identical saw (new) in about 84 I believe. I used it hard and always had difficulty in keeping the guides in adjustment. The whole guide arm assembly was pretty micky mouse. Keep in mind grizz. in that era was light years behind where they are now. Based on my experiance I think I would steer clear of it. I also can recall that the wheels were difficult to keep co-planner. It sat mostly unused after a few months and the same goes for the grizz. 14 inch that I had for a year or so in about 03-04. I learned my lesson on that one too. As far as grizz. bandsaws go in my experiance the larger saws are the way to go. I had the 19 inch for 3-4 years and finally sold it about 2 yrs ago. It was ok, but just ok. I gotta tell you though that the only bandsaw I have now is the same one that was there in the midst of all these other ones I played with. It is a delta/rockwell 28-3xo which is a 20 inch. Once set I do not have to touch it unless changing blades. Just turn it on and go to work which is what I need. Settings are the main reason I prefer earlier moderatly heavy machinery. They were built to work and not play with adjustments everytime you use them. As far as footprint goes, you ll for get all about that once you use a decent saw. I know that 200 bucks to get something that spins the blade can be attractive but If you watch closely you should be able to find an early american made saw for a 1000.00 or so. I know, I know its tough to cough that up at times but at five time s the money your considering now you will have way more than five times the machine. Probably be the one and only you ll ever need. JB

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toolie

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#2 posted 10-17-2012 09:44 PM

transportation, assuming the 475 miles is round trip, adds ~$70 to the cost, just about the shipping cost on one of the griz saws you mentioned. for a 16” saw, that’s not a terribly bad price. i’d use the lack of a fence and mobile base, as well as the travel costs, to negotiate with the seller.

i’d also check out the section of this catalog (p141) that discusses what to look for when investigating used band saws for purchase:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82359640/Iturra_Design_catalogue_2010.pdf

iturra is one of the best people in the country on all things band saw related and his catalog contains several articles that read like a band saw primmer.

what is the model number of the unit? it’s apparently an older unit judging from the color, style and “grizzly” graphic.

when you step up to a larger BS, keep whatever smaller BS you have and equip it with a 1/8 or 1/4” blade for small, quick operations that don’t require hauling out whatever larger BS you have at the time.

and rikon apparently doesn’t offer a 17” BS:

http://rikontools.com/products_bandsaws.htm

but they are really good band saws and the products, and the company that stands behind them, are both well regarded.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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DIYaholic

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#3 posted 10-17-2012 10:07 PM

cabmaker,
That’s excactly the type of response I was (wasn’t) looking for. Someone with personal experience with THIS saw. I only wish your experience (Grizzly quality) was better, back in the day. Thanks for taking the time to read, respond and give an honest appraisal. My wallet tells me that $1000 is pushing it, that’s why I was really hoping this saw was a future CL Score and Machine Gloat!!!

toolie,
I will check out those links later tonight, after I run some errands. Thanks for your input. I took a really fast look at Rikon (couldn’t afford to look too closely) and my wallet jump out of my pocket and slapped me around some. That maybe my confussion regarding a 17”!!!

As I said, I need to step out for a while, but WILL check in later and respond to all the sage advice!!

Thanks guys.

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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patron

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#4 posted 10-17-2012 11:09 PM

randy

i had this very saw
it was broken in the back of a shop i worked in
got it for $100

the dopers that bought it new
(it uses 2 belts -1 for fast and medium
1 for medium and slow
they were different lengths)
it had a broken top wheel ‘yoke’
(the hingy thing that tightens it up
on the top wheel)
the dopers had put both belts on
and turned it on
snapped the cheap cast ‘yoke’

the tool name was ‘lobo’
but it was also sold by grizzly amongst others

i called grizzly and told them i had a (whatever their #no. was)
and they sent me replacement parts and a manual

got it running ok
and used it to rip 5’ cottonwood for indian ceremonial gatherings
so never used it for more than that

my buddy re-wired my house and liked it
so i traded
it still works i guess
it sits out in the weather rusting
waiting to be used from time to time

grizzly no longer has any info on it in the catalogs
best to call them and ask about parts and service

that is from a time before re-sawing was a big deal
and bandsaws were for curves

and sheep were afraid
of course

i am looking to get a re-saw dedicated saw myself
after seeing all the new features they have now
times change

i know a good saw is for life
get the best you can
and enjoy it

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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sixstring

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#5 posted 10-17-2012 11:19 PM

That kinda looks a whole lot like the Harbor Freight BS. Got one of those in your neck of the woods? I’d check it out since it’s had great reviews around here. I think it’s what I’ll be purchasing for my resawing needs.

-- JC Garcia, Concord, CA : "It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission..."

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#6 posted 10-18-2012 01:29 AM

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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DIYaholic

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#7 posted 10-18-2012 02:08 AM

I will get in touch with the seller and find out the model # and how “temperamatal” this machine is. I’ll also contact Grizzly and garner more knowledge. Then maybe I can make a decision as to whether or not to travel to view and inspect the machine. Maybe a GREAT deal will show up on CL in the meantime .

Dave,
I see a cord on that saw, but it ain’t no POWER cord!!!

Everyone is welcome to continue to comment…

Thanks for your time & input…...

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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superstretch

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#8 posted 10-18-2012 02:38 AM

Is it the G1538? If so, I have one. Its a bit crude but it powers through everything I throw at it. I have a 3/4” Woodslicer that has seen a good amount of resawing, so it may be time for me to swap out the blade.

I’ll echo what was said about keeping the wheels coplaner, and perhaps part of the problem is using a 3/4” blade (higher tension). There’s an adjustment bolt for the top wheel that has bottomed out and I can’t get it to push the wheel further out. It does have a tendency to drift and the guides under the table are too far away from the table (allows for more movement). I have almost no flutter, but YMMV. I can run anything through the saw and only have to hit it once with a sander to knock out the marks.

That being said, I love it.. It was cheap ($250) and came in almost new condition when I bought it not too long ago. I don’t think that a riser block is an option, but it already has a decent resaw capacity. On the scale you mentioned, I would put this at a “good”.. but in comparison to what you’re coming from.

Some more resources:
http://lumberjocks.com/topics/28482
http://lumberjocks.com/topics/30012

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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DIYaholic

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#9 posted 10-18-2012 11:28 PM

Dan,
I have eMailed the seller, regarding model #. Did you ever look into the Carter guides, do they make them for the G1538?
Thanks for the links and the “personal experience” insight.

So far one “BAD”, one “GOOD” and one “So-So” appraisal. Seems there is no concensus…..
What to do???
I think I will put this purchase “on hold” and not travel just to buy the saw. I will keep looking for a “Great” saw. Should I not “Score” a CL deal & if this saw is still be available, perhaps when I visit family at Thanksgiving or Christmas I will check out this saw.

Thanks everyone for all the input!

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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superstretch

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#10 posted 10-19-2012 02:01 AM

So it comes down to pass, buy as an investment, buy for funsies, or buy to use it.

It probably won’t make you back any money, is inefficient to buy if you want something bigger/better in the near future, and the distance/no fence/no mobile base would push me to holding off for now. It is a heavy saw and really takes two people to load and unload. Definitely be sure before you buy something like this.

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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DIYaholic

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#11 posted 10-20-2012 02:34 AM

superstretch,
Is it possible to replace the “bottomed out” screw (partlist, Item #20?), with a longer one?

I discoverd that Carter does make a guide conversion kit for this saw. Has anyone done the conversion? Outcome?

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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superstretch

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#12 posted 10-22-2012 01:38 PM

Oh I’m sure there is.. someone posted about an 18” Grizzly a few weeks back and it had a replacement bolt threaded through. Just get the right size and threads and you’re good to go.

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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