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Forum topic by sawedoff posted 10-15-2012 11:28 AM 1138 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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sawedoff

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10-15-2012 11:28 AM

I have one of these and a few months ago had a board fall and hit the motor. It put a little ding in the casing but no big issues. I noticed later that when I ran it that air was leaking on the motor. I honestly don’t know if it did this prior or not. Could anyone maybe let me know if theirs does this as well.

Thanks

Tyson

-- still wet behind the ears.....


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#1 posted 10-15-2012 11:34 AM

While I doubt this is a problem, take a piece of aluminum tape and place over the ding.

-- Life is good.

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#2 posted 10-15-2012 01:14 PM

Look on the end of the motor. The fan you see on the end of the motor pulls air across the motor to cool it. That is what you are feeling. I actually blow that out once in a while with compressed air, just to keep that area free of dust.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#3 posted 10-15-2012 05:07 PM

Thanks guys. Mike, I guess that’s what it is

-- still wet behind the ears.....

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#4 posted 10-15-2012 07:25 PM

The motor is known as a TEFC (Totally Enclosed Fan Cooled). The piece that got dinged is the cooling shroude and won’t effect cooling.

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#5 posted 10-15-2012 09:23 PM

This thing leaks all over. I got mine for fathers day, at first very disappointed as I wanted the delta (whole nother story)

I was disappointed because the hardware/directions/machine seemed to be for three different items. A friend told me to use the manual for entertainment only, and think of it more as a abstract guide. Throw out the hardware and buy whats needed, and finally, duct tape and seal everything.

When I first started using the unit, the blower assembly leaked as well as the hose connection. I used a silicone sealant for most of the unit (blower housing etc…) and duct tape for the hose connections. I also modified the unit an added a Thein separator and a Wynn filter. All told, $150 for DC, $100 for Wynn filter, $50 for separator parts, and $10 for tape and sealant.

I’m much happier with the unit now. But lets be real here, for a few bucks more a better machine can be purchased. A DC in my shop is a safety device. Keeping the area clean, and minimizing the dust are it’s primary job. I’m not happy about the HF DC and the mods I needed to do to make it useful. Sorry about the mini-rant, I see HF tools come up a lot. I’ve seen people point out the “little gems” at HF. But I look at like this, if you have a product line that contains mostly garbage, maybe you shouldn’t be in business.

-- Nicky

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#6 posted 10-15-2012 11:57 PM

IMO, you would/should add a separator to ALL of those other “competition” DC units (being defined by your ”...few buck more” statement), and maybe have to add the Wynn type filter as well. Now we are talking 300%---1000% more than the HF unit, and THAT is no chump change, and this is just what the Grizzly line offers.

I guess, with all of that said, I do not understand about your gripe against HF. Shoot, you pulled these modifications on your Woodtek DC Nicky, that cost you more than twice that of the HF DC unit. As far as HF being mostly “junk”, you have to admit that they employ thousands/tens of thousands as their company perfects their technology and makes improvements. Just as William Edwards Deming did with Japan after WWII, it takes some time, but the time will come when they(HF/China) will be power houses of manufacturing just as Japan did.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#7 posted 10-16-2012 08:41 PM

When I bought my Woodtek, The parts were all there, the manual actually referenced parts that were part of the DC and the assembly was easy. I installed the top/bottom bags, connected the hose, and started using the little bugger. Still working great after 10 years.

The addition of a separator started me down the bigger/better DC. My honey, who is very supportive of my woodworking addition, was being thoughtful and purchased one for me, cause I made mention of upgrading. I did not like the experience and think having to seal the blower, motor mount, hose connection was a waste of my time.

“it takes some time, but the time will come when they(HF/China) will be power houses of manufacturing”

Sorry, but the Chinese have been pumping out this kind of crap for a long time, and under so many different names, they are already the power house you mention and own this market. I don’t expect that quality will get any better, I really believe it will continue to get worse as they kill the competition with cheap pricing. I am trying (and this is difficult) to make a decision on not supporting the HFs of the world. I’m not promoting a dislike for HF, just a dislike for poor quality tools.

I feel blessed to be able to make a choices where money is not (usually) the limiting factor. If I had the space, I’d have a cyclone installed.

I do respect what others choose.

-- Nicky

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#8 posted 10-16-2012 10:43 PM

You know, if a retailer specifies junk and demands a cost that reflects junk, the Chinese will produce exactly that.
Don’t think for a minute that they can’t make any quality of product they wish.

There are top quality Swiss watches on the market today that have internal parts made in China. They still have the astronomical prices to prove they are Swiss.

I wouldn’t call Apple I-Pods, I-Pads, I-Phones junk. Guess where they are made. China.

-- Michael: Hillary has a long list of accomplishments, though most DAs would refer to them as felonies.

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#9 posted 10-16-2012 10:50 PM

Come on Nicky, read up on your own American History,... W. Edwards Deming. If you do NOTHING else, read up on this. It will change your entire perspective. Just because Americans did NOT pay attention right away, does NOT mean he did NOT know what he was doing… READ!

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#10 posted 10-17-2012 12:03 AM

Don’t want this to get too political but…

Mike, I am very much aware of Deming’s work from a quality perspective, and I agree that Deming’s concepts are sound. By using his example, just how many of his 7 deadly diseases does HF suffer from? Can they make high quality products…yes they can an do. HF is not buying those, they are flooding the markets with a lot of junk. Just try to image the amount of tools that HF has sold that are sitting in our landfills; I can only wonder about the hard earned money spent on these items. I’m just making a choice as to not deal with HF.

I wouldn’t call Apple I-Pods, I-Pads, I-Phones junk either. I use all three. I could have gone to Walmart and purchased cheaper knock-offs but liked the Apple quality. And I would venture a guess that Deming’s principals and concepts are alive and well in these factories.

-- Nicky

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