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Topic tags/keywords: question joint walnut frame gift joining tip trick

I’m going to make this frame for a Christmas gift. I’m planning on making it out of walnut with a lighter wood, I have ash and maple, for the butterfly keys. I’m an “advanced beginner” and I’ve made several frames before but not one that should turn out this nice. The lumber is 4/4 and will be about 1 1/4 to 1 1/2” wide. Overall dimensions are about 12×27.

What would be the best joints to use for the corners? And the “stiles?” I’m thinking about pegged saddle joints for the corners, maybe (they don’t have to be mitered)? I’m stumped about the middle pieces, The keys will be primarily decorative.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance!

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#1 posted 650 days ago

I think id go with a half lap for the middle pieces but your butterflies would be more than fine to hold them together with a butt joont.

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#2 posted 650 days ago

Wood would be getting pretty thin if you use any kind of joint then put the butterflies in too. I think I would use the butterflies to jold butt joints for the center part.

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#3 posted 650 days ago

Mitered half-lap joints might look nice and provide adequate strength for the corners.

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#4 posted 650 days ago

If the butterflies aren’t a must and your looking for that decorative touch. I would use the half lap joints and peg with the contrasting wood. Strength and decorative at the same time. Square peg holes look good on that type of project in my opinion.

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#5 posted 649 days ago

I’d go for all half laps pegged with contrasting wood. (strong, easy, and self squaring)

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#6 posted 649 days ago

Half laps in the center, pegged or not. Mitered half laps in the corners.

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#7 posted 648 days ago

My choice would be doweled joints at the middle and splined joints for the miters. There should still be enough meat for the decorative inlay

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#8 posted 648 days ago

I like the half lap miters for the corners and loose tenon for the other joints.

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#9 posted 646 days ago

Wow, Jonathan…that’s intense. I’m not sure I’m up to that yet! I’ve gone for half-laps (next time I’ll try mitered half-laps) pegged with a contrasting color. I’m trying to figure out whether to half-lap the center stiles or not…I really think I like the butterflys but I may not go with them…

Thanks for all the input, I’ll post the frame when I’m done!

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