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08-03-2008 11:28 PM

Topic tags/keywords: plane question

I’ve tried a bunch of times… can’t seem to get my pics to size properly! Links to full pics included too.

My first ever hand plane… I have no idea what I’ve got here.
See the full pic here

My mom found it at a yard sale, got it for a dollar.

So, I’m thinking it’s a block plane… am I right?
Here’s a few identifying marks that might help…
P&C? 1947? USA?

Seems to be made in the US…

And under the blade, the number 493 and a U in a circle?

Any advice on what it is, best way to get it up and working, blade angles, etc would be greatly appreciated!

-- Ryno

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#1 posted 08-03-2008 11:59 PM

its a block plane.

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#2 posted 08-04-2008 12:53 AM

Can’t find P&C among my old hardware co. reference list, but I would think your plane is no older than the 1960s – I would guess newer. “1947” is probably a model number – flatten the back of the blade ( search for plane restoration instructions on this site for “how to”) to remove any rust/pits – grind/sharpen to ~25 degree bevel on a block plane blade – blade bevel should be oriented up in a block plane & down in in a bench plane

-- Paul, Kentucky

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#3 posted 08-04-2008 02:26 AM

Update… after plenty of searches, (so curious about this… did I get a good deal? Is this a collectible?) I find out that P&C is a part of the history of Stanley Proto tools…

Combined from a few sources:

P&C is best known as a subsidiary of Plomb Tool (later Proto), but was an interesting and innovative company in its own right. Founded around 1920, the company had developed a very extensive line of automotive service tools by the end of the 1920s.

P&C was founded in 1920 by John N. Peterson and Charles F. Carlborg. Their first location was in Idaho, but the company soon moved to Oregon, first to Lebanon, Oregon and then to Milwaukie (a suburb of Portland). By 1924 the P & C Hand Forged Tool Company was listed in the Polk’s Portland City Directory, a business directory covering the Portland area. link

Further [Plomb Tool Company] expansion was done in early 1941 by acquiring P & C Hand Forged Tool Company in Milwaukie (sic) (Portland, Oregon). Mr. John Peterson & Mr. Charles Carlborg established P&C in 1920. The facilities augmented contract production and continued producing P&C tools until about 1964. link

Proto eventually ran into a legal battle over the company name, and ended up being eventually bought by Stanley’s Proto industrial tools division.

Now, I have seen no mention anywhere of woodworking tools… only automotive and such, and other than another plane I saw that had sold on ebay for $10, I couldn’t find any reference anywhere to P&C’s planes.

So the plane could be 60’s era, as Paul has suggested, or it could be earlier? Who knows… no newer than ‘64…

-- Ryno

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#4 posted 08-04-2008 02:52 AM

I don’t know if you got a plane that’s worth a lot, but I have a plane that looks exactly like yours, except it doesn’t say “made in usa” on it. I guess it’s one of the imported, Stanley knockoffs. Mine seems to be at least 20 or 30 years old. If you want a good little, general purpose, block plane, it will work fine. Put a good edge on the blade and you’ll be surprised how much you use it.

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#5 posted 08-04-2008 03:50 AM

Doesn’t the letter U in a circle mean it’s kosher? (

Mazal tov,

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#6 posted 08-04-2008 08:34 PM

L’Chaim, Dr. Unix!

I think that only holds true if it’s followed by “Pareve”...

Or maybe that’s only Kosher for Passover?


-- Ryno

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