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Charlie

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09-29-2012 03:53 PM

If it’s still available I may have an opportunity to pick up a Ridgid 14” band saw for $100.
Now I understand there were issues with vibration and I’ve read the threads on LJ about how folks have overcome the vibration issue. My question is, would it be worth $100 to get it and put a little into it? I saw one picture of it and it looks almost like brand new. It’s the newer orange model, not the grey one.

There’s also this Delta I’ve been looking at:
http://buffalo.craigslist.org/tls/3263415603.html
But it’s overpriced. I talked to the guy yesterday and it’s the son selling off some of his dad’s equipment as his dad has passed away. He said he’d come down to $400 but he’s pretty firm on that. There’s a newer one for $450 that has the riser kit on it so I think $400 is still at least $100 too high. I don’t have the $450 to go for the newer one. Trying to keep this all under $300 to slide it past SWMBO.


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Roadster280

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#1 posted 09-29-2012 04:02 PM

I used to have one of those, it cost me more in my time (which is NOT free) than buying a good one in the end, so I sold it and bought a steel frame El Cheapo Grizzly. Night and day difference.

Some people have had different experiences, so perhaps the thing to do is go see it, and have the owner fire it up. If it vibrates, run away. If it doesn’t, well, at $100, what have you got to lose? In fact to some extent, what have you got to lose anyway? You’ll always be able to sell that saw for more than $100, even if it doesn’t work for you.

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toolie

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#2 posted 09-29-2012 04:03 PM

the deltas are better than the ridgid. of all ridgid’s staionary power tools, the 1400 was the weak link. some were ok but most apparently needed help to perform well (although michael fortune swears by his 14” ridgid (orange also) band saw). too bad it’s not an older gray models. those carried a lifetime warranty regardless of ownership.

that delta for $400 might still a touch high. what model is it and how powerful is the motor? does it have a miter gauge and is the fence serviceable? but if all you want to spend is $100, the ridgid will work, but you may be balancing the upper and lower wheels, chanking out the drive belt to a link belt and doing a few more modestly priced improvements (probably ~ $100 in all excluding a fence) before it performs properly.

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Charlie

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#3 posted 09-29-2012 04:34 PM

The Delta is a 52-965.
Now I’ve seen these around with 3/4hp motors, but I’ve also see a couple with 1.5hp motors which was maybe an upgrade option? I don’t know. The young man I spoke to on the phone about this particular Delta said he “thinks it’s a 3/4” but he’s basing that on an old Delta advertisement or something. Not looking at the saw’s motor. So I don’t know the motor size.
I can only see the saw in the CL listing. It looks pretty clean, actually, but I don’t see any mention of a fence nor did the guy indicate there was one. If I go see it, with cash in hand and assuming it runs ok, offering him $250 for it. From what I’m seeing, if it’s the 3/4hp and has no fences, then $250 is reasonable (I think… I don’t know… that’s why I’m here on LJ! hehehe). The other one I mentioned for $450 has 6 new blades, a riser kit and the fence(s) for it AND it’s only a couple years old. The one I linked above was bought around 2001 he thinks.

Maybe I should just go look at it. If I insult him with a $250 offer then…..sorry, but he actually advertised this saw back in August as well and it’s not moving at $500 for sure.

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Cole Tallerman

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#4 posted 09-29-2012 04:40 PM

$500 for the newer delta is not so bad if it has at least a 1 hp motor and is clean. Also, 6 new blades will run you at least $150. I’d offer the new delta guy $350 or $400 if you have it. but of corse, first take a look at it.

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#5 posted 09-29-2012 05:06 PM

That’s a good deal!

-- If I can do it.....so can you! -AJswoodshop

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#6 posted 09-29-2012 05:14 PM

Set the guides close and rip a 4” tall block of wood on it.
That will tell you whether it will cut well or if it needs work.

1/2” rip blades for 14” saws are widely available. If you bring
your own you’ll know the blade is not the problem.

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REO

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#7 posted 09-29-2012 08:06 PM

I have not scoured for the vibration problem with ridgid bandsaws. I believe that Most of the smaller bandsaws are manufactured by the same outfit and branded for who is selling them. Different guides, tables and tensioners are speced but the frame and such are the same. To get a bandsaw to saw with a fence is much more than throwing a new blade on it. There are many more variables to getting even the best bandsaw running true. For 100.00 dollars you have a foundation that can be built on. You can invest your money where it may serve you better overall (a set of guides and or a tensoion addapter).

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Charlie

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#8 posted 09-30-2012 12:10 AM

I called the guy with the Delta 52-965. He was using a $2300 multi-speed, 1-1/2HP metal cutting bandsaw as a comparison. He didn’t know. It was a Delta and it kinda looked like the one he has. So I told him the 28-400 is more like what he has and it’s $649. I told him the 52-965 sold NEW for about $600 with the 3/4hp motor and closer to $700 with the upgrade to a 1-1/2hp. I also told him a new Grizzly is $425 in that 14” class with 3/4hp motor.

The photo in a CL listing shows the fence rails on the table but no fence. I said, “Look, assuming you can find the fence and that if I come over there and we run the saw it runs fine, no odd vibrations or noises, nothing broken, I think a good deal for ME is about $225-$250. I think a good deal for YOU is more like $300. If you don’t have the fence we’re closer to MY good deal. If you have it and it’s not broken or bent then maybe we’re closer to YOUR good deal. In any event, I have to tell you I can’t go over $300 because that’s all I have. If you want to think about this and talk it over with your mom, you can call me and either tell me I’m off base or we can make arrangements for me to come have a look.”

I’m being honest with him and he sounds like a nice guy trying to sell off some of his dad’s stuff to help out his mom. We’ll see where it goes. I think I’m being fair. I need the saw, but not bad enough to try to cheat someone out of it. He had some guy come over and offer him $100 for it. I also think if he insists on $400 he’s going to end up with nothing for his mom ‘cause I don’t think it will sell at that price. Not in this area anyways.

stay tuned. :)

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HalDougherty

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#9 posted 09-30-2012 01:52 AM

I picked up a Rigid 14” bandsaw on Craig’s List last year for $125 and it’s one of the best tools I have. No vibration issues, and drift isn’t a problem. I bought it so I can keep a resaw blade on my Rikon 10-325 and a 1/4” general purpose blade on the Rigid.

-- Hal, Tennessee http://www.first285.com

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#10 posted 09-30-2012 01:54 AM

Find some heavy steel and chuck it in the base if you get the ridgid saw…

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#11 posted 09-30-2012 11:32 AM

I would rather have the Delta 52-965 without fence and miter gauge whether ¾ or 1 HP if it runs and tracks properly. Newer bandsaw models with more bells and whistles have Asian motors and lesser quality components. Think Lowes stopped selling newer Delta 14” BS with 3/4 HP motor because they were crap.

Delta bandsaws normally sell without a fence. No fence would not be a deal killer for me. Aftermarket fences expensive but better quality than some OEM fences. Homemade simple fences and sleds more accurate than many OEM fences and miter gauges. Check out jig section of this forum and other on-line sites.

Time to get off the phone and go see the guy with money in your hand. Face to face meetings always work better. Even if do not close the deal that day, guy might be more inclined to call you back later on.

-- Bill

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cutworm

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#12 posted 09-30-2012 09:11 PM

I have the BS1400 and it does vibrate. I reduced it a lot by taping trial weights to the wheels. Glued them when I found the best place. If there is a local motor shop near you you could take them off and have them balanced. The belt also needs to be replaced. Vibration is now acceptable for what I do. $100 isn’t bad.

-- Steve - "Never Give Up"

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#13 posted 09-30-2012 09:35 PM

I did a review of this saw at:

http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/465

Mine still works fine.

Howard Ferstler

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#14 posted 10-01-2012 02:43 PM

That’s a nice review!

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