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Forum topic by Cole Tallerman posted 09-26-2012 04:20 AM 1222 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Cole Tallerman

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09-26-2012 04:20 AM

So I got a hardly used powermatic pwbs-14cs for free from my community service over a year ago. The dust blower was broken (it is a gimmick anyway) and so were the gears for the quick release. For the past year ive been raising and lowering the tension it by hand. My question is, if I got the saw for free, is it right for me to ask them to send me the parts for the tensioner? For some reason it doesn’t feel like the right thing. But then again, someone not so long ago paid the $1200 for the new saw.

Also, is there a way that I can change the registration so that its under my name?
thanks in advance!


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Lifesaver2000

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#1 posted 09-26-2012 05:01 AM

As a famous cricket once said, “let your conscious be your guide.” If it doesn’t feel right to you, you are the one that has to live with it no matter what anyone else says.

The simple solution (to me at least) is to just call or email powermatic, tell them (in general terms) how you got the thing and let them decide if they will bill you for the parts or just send them to you for free. If they are willing to send them to you for no charge and know the story, then I don’t see you have any ethical problem at all. And if they charge a few bucks, you still have very little money in it.

I have never heard of a warranty registration being transferable on something like that, but they might at least put you on a notification list for any product recalls that might come up.

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Arlin Eastman

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#2 posted 09-26-2012 01:24 PM

Gifts are taken back all the time. If you have a reciept do it, if not buy it

-- It is always the right time, to do the right thing.

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TheDane

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#3 posted 09-26-2012 01:40 PM

Pay for the parts and repairs.

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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syenefarmer

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#4 posted 09-26-2012 01:45 PM

If this saw was not brand new when it was given to you then you have no claim to free parts. Fixing problems with used equipment is not the responsibility of the manufacturer.

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toolie

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#5 posted 09-26-2012 01:50 PM

if you contact wmh tool group, they will change the registration:

http://www.powermatic.com/About.aspx?nav=OurInformation

but i would get the parts i need first. here’s their warranty and once ownership changes from the current owner to you, powermatic relieves themselves of their warranty obligation (re “who is covered” section):

http://www.powermatic.com/PowermaticWarranty.htm

i’d get whatever i needed out of them first and then after the 5 year warranty has expired, change the ownership to you from whoever it’s presently registered to. i’ve no doubt the organization that awarded you this saw would want you to benefit from powermatic’s warranty. and this way, you can.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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Greg..the Cajun Wood Artist

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#6 posted 09-26-2012 02:23 PM

I would pay for the parts…You got the saw for free.

-- Each step of every Wood Art project I design and build is considered my masterpiece… because I want the finished product to reflect the quality and creativeness of my work

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Fishinbo

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#7 posted 09-26-2012 08:45 PM

I’d pay for the parts owing to the principle of unjust enrichment.

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Surfside

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#8 posted 09-26-2012 08:51 PM

I agree, pay for the parts. You got more than that. It’s payback time!

-- "someone has to be wounded for others to be saved, someone has to sacrifice for others to feel happiness, someone has to die so others could live"

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Doss

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#9 posted 09-26-2012 09:13 PM

Yep, lump me in with the group that says you should just pay for the parts. Might as well rehab the thing while you’re at it and get everything running tip top. It’s [probably] cheaper than buying another machine.

-- "Well, at least we can still use it as firewood... maybe." - Doss

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Cole Tallerman

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#10 posted 09-26-2012 10:21 PM

sounds like im going to pay for the parts.

Doss: the bandsaw was new in 2008!! i am by no means looking for another machine as this one, except for the quick release is in pristine condition.

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MJCD

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#11 posted 09-27-2012 02:12 AM

My guideline has always been that if your asking the question, then you should know the answer. Pay for the parts.

-- Lead By Example; Make a Difference

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gfadvm

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#12 posted 09-27-2012 02:28 AM

I’m with Lifesaver’s advice. Contact them,tell the truth, and see what happens.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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Moron

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#13 posted 09-27-2012 02:40 AM

funny how your gut gives you the right answer

there should never be a reward for community service done for free, other then respect.

the fact that you got a “present” for what every one should do

and then ask for more

spells bad medicine

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Lee Barker

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#14 posted 09-27-2012 04:01 PM

I disagree with my colleagues.

I think you are approaching a desolate wasteland of insecurity, anguish amd maladjusted karma blended with weeping and gnashing of teeth. There is simply no way out of this morass of self loathing into which you are about to tread.

But wait. Look over your shoulder. Life was better then, and the marker was accepting that saw. Better then, awful now.

The solution is obvious. Strap that reprobate piece of intrusive cast iron onto a pallet and send it to me, freight collect. I know just what it needs, and I’m not afraid to follow through.

The air will be sweeter, the sun warmer, the whipped cream on your latte foamier.

Actually, I was just kidding.

I think you should pay the freight.

(: )

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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