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Diego

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697 days ago

Hi everyone, I’m new to this forum and wasn’t sure if this is were I should post this.
I’m looking to upgrade my table saw from a portable Ridgid I’ve had for the last three years. I want to get more serious with my woodworking and need to buy a more reliable and durable saw.
My budget is $1000, preferably around $700 so I can use the rest for upgrades but I’m willing to spend more if I absolutely have to but I’m trying save were ever I can. I combed the forums to see what people were recommending, and in that price range the Steelcity 3599C stood out because of the cabinet mounted trunions.
I’m also considering buying a used saw that I can rebuild or restore as long as it doesn’t break the bank. Many people highly recommended getting an older Delta Unisaw, so I looked at my local craigslist and found one, model number 38-801, the owner is asking $700. I’m going to take a look at it wednesday morning and need advise wether it is worth it, any advise will be greatly appreciated.

Here’s a link to the actual post.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/tls/3275626156.html

-- Let go my Eggo!!!


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Fred Hargis

1721 posts in 1120 days


#1 posted 697 days ago

That would be a terrific saw to own. I do think his price may be a little high for a 1.5 HP saw, but that’s just my opinion….after all it seems to have everything except the motor cover (use that as a negotiating point for a lower price) and a plug. Without a plug I’m not sure how you’ll hear it run. Listening for bad bearings either on the saw or in the motor is something I’d sure want to do for that price. I'd also check this article by the Sawcenter. It has several good points to consider. Good luck with the purchase, if things work out that would be a lifetime saw!

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, we sent 'em to Washington.

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knotscott

5418 posts in 2003 days


#2 posted 697 days ago

That’s not a bad deal at $700 for a Uni in nice shape with a Unifence….the motor is smaller, but it looks ready to put into action, and doesn’t require 220v…..do you have 220v available? If not, you’re going to have to stay below 2hp….with good alignment and good blade selection, 1.5hp is still plenty for hobby work, and even light commercial duty.

From a glance, I see at least two other Unisaws and a Ridgid 3650 in your area….one is huge and needs some TLC, the other is a restored 1959 that’s pretty sweet, the 3650 is priced high at $395, but is still an upgrade from the portable, and could be nice buy at $295.

Please keep us posted.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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toolie

1739 posts in 1256 days


#3 posted 697 days ago

+1 on fred’s comments. pay particularly close attention to the FAQ section of the linked sawcenter page. these things can become money pits in a real hurry (DAMHIKT). make sure it operates prior to purchase. new leeson 3 hp motors are >$350 and having the sawcenter replace a hollowed out arbor can go >$200. there are cheaper alternatives, assuming you’d want non OEM compliant parts or you can DIY repairs. also, for ~ $1000, you should be able to get more power than 1.5hp. but 3 hp would be more than enough for a hobbyist shop. some will advise for a 5 hp motor, but that’s more than a hobbyist will ever need.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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Cole Tallerman

391 posts in 812 days


#4 posted 697 days ago

looks like a good deal but the motor name plate appears to saw 1.5 hp! no doubt this is a great saw and will last you a long time but if you want more power, you may have to spend that other $300 on a new motor.

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Gshepherd

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#5 posted 697 days ago

1k, budget you could do better. Good saw your looking at though. I think you would be much happier with 3hp but that depends if you have 220v, if you do not maybe invest in getting it. Opens the door to some great opportunities on other serious equipment

10” 3 hp 220 volt Cabinet saw on a mobile stand. I bought this saw when I retired in 2008. The saw has only been used for hobby work. The new replacement cost is over $1200 plus tax and shipping. I have more pictures if you are interested. In Banning…. Check this one out, asking 800…. I bet 700 you take it home….

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Cole Tallerman

391 posts in 812 days


#6 posted 697 days ago

Forgot to mention: i have a 1.5 hp saw and it does pretty much everything i ask it to. (ripping through 12/4 maple this weekend)

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Diego

8 posts in 697 days


#7 posted 697 days ago

I guess I forgot to mention that I’m limited to 110 because I rent at the moment. I did see other saws including the sweet restored 1959, I’ll look into it a bit more later tonight after work.

-- Let go my Eggo!!!

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Loren

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#8 posted 697 days ago

High price for a 1.5 HP saw.

There are at least 3 Powermatic model 66 saws for sale in
L.A. for about the same price. I’ve never owned a Unisaw
or a model 66, but most cabinetmakers in the know would
go Powermatic given the choice.

I believe the Unisaw has a Delta-only motor mount which
means you can’t just upgrade it with any used 3HP motor
later, you have to spend like $400 on the Delta OEM.

Powermatic has a less fussy mount and can take a wider
range of motors with less hassle I think.

There are plenty of used cabinet saws in the Los Angeles
areas. I see them advertised all the time. Prices start
at around $400.

There’s also this sort of hybrid saw:

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/tls/3227879698.html

The sliding table is a nice feature and they run on
regular house current.

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Cole Tallerman

391 posts in 812 days


#9 posted 696 days ago

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/tls/3274635738.html

2 hp powermatic 66. The really nice thing about this is it has a riving knife which is a must. i cut the tip of my finger off in one without it because i got some kickback. Then i tried one with a riving knife and it felt so much safer to use.

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WoodWorkWarrior

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#10 posted 696 days ago

I purchased a Grizzly G0715P Hybrid TS last year. It’s a great saw, you should check it out. The saw, shipping, and a mobile base will put you at about $1k. 2HP cuts through anything a hobbiest would need, and it can be wired for 110V (have to buy an extra $20 part from Grizzly). There are a bunch of reviews for this saw on this site, read a couple.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/10-Hybrid-Table-Saw-with-Riving-Knife-Polar-Bear-Series-/G0715P

-- Jason

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toolie

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#11 posted 696 days ago

correction, cole, but i’m pretty sure the linked powermatic has a splitter and not a riving knife. note the way the splitter is attached to the rear of the saw?

there’s no way that is going to raise and lower with the blade. but, used properly, it is a very good anti-kickback safety device.

nice looking saw, but with a 2hp motor and probably a 30 ” fence, $900 feels kind of rich to me for a used unit, although i’m unfamiliar with the used market for older powermatic saws.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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REO

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#12 posted 696 days ago

all of the motors I have seen over one horse even the ones that say they are one voltage and rotation can be changed to the other voltage. some of them have to be pulled apart and the other leads Dug out but it can be done. knowing this can lead to some good deals. If it is wired for 220 and someone else doesn’t know it can be changed you can get it cheaper and change it to fit you needs.

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knotscott

5418 posts in 2003 days


#13 posted 696 days ago

Since you’re restricted to 110v for the time being, it’d be hard to imagine finding a better 110v saw that the 1.5hp Unisaw, and you don’t see them all that often….I’d move pretty quickly if I was in the market. All the other guts are same as any Unisaw, and you could upgrade the motor at some point if you wanted to. Ask what they’d take if it checks out…..$600-$650 would be a pretty nice deal IMO, but even it took the full $700 it’s a nice saw.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Everett1

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#14 posted 696 days ago

I just finished restoring a 1946 unisaw. 1hp motor but it’s the older bullet type which many claim is as good as 2-3hp

Cuts awesome and it was free, my wife’s grandfathers saw

I’d go for I if you can get him down lower on the price

Also powermatics can’t retrofit a riving knife like the bork, unisaw can

SPlitter seems fine on mine though

-- Ev in Framingham, MA

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Diego

8 posts in 697 days


#15 posted 696 days ago

Thanks for all the quick responses, you guys are awesome. Since the power cord is missing the plug I have no way of knowing if the motor even works, i’ll look at it tomorrow, if the internals look good i’ll try and get a better deal.
My friend sent me this link to a newer delta contractors saw, owner says is model 36-675, I have a hard time believing he paid $1500 for it.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/tls/3285031950.html

-- Let go my Eggo!!!

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