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Forum topic by Ed posted 09-24-2012 10:38 PM 6512 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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09-24-2012 10:38 PM

I have a very small shop (8×20) and do not have room for a large table saw. Nor do I need an expensive one. I have been watching Craigslist. I have found the Craftsman 113 model and Jet JWTS-10 model older saws at reasonable prices, but the motor outside the frame increases the footprint abolut 11” which I need to conserve. Their are loads of cheap direct drive saw with aluminum tables for sale. But I thougt an older used CI table saw with belt drive would be more solid and accurate.

I know that Jet tucked their motor belt drive inside the box near 1999. What model Craftsman did the same? What model of other brands did the same?

What should I be looking for?

Thanks,
Ed

-- Ed


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#1 posted 09-24-2012 11:00 PM

Look for a hybrid or a cabinet saw. There are some old
smaller cabinet saws out there on the used market. Craftsman
had one in the 1950s and Delta did too. There were
others…. Walker-Turner etc. Check online auctions. They
typically have 1 HP motors and run on 110 volt power.

Another option is an older tilt table saw. They aren’t that
useful for cutting large sheets but for joinery and work in
solid wood they work well. The Delta 9” saw is very
accurate.

These aren’t very attractive options but the truth is that
contractor saws all have the motor hanging out the back
or a cable drive. “Hybrid” saws came on the market about
10 years ago and some look a bit like contractor saws but
inside they are basically cabinet saws and tend to be
heavier than contractor models. Expect to spend
$300-$800 and up for a used hybrid if you can find
one in your area.

Hybrid brands on the market include DeWalt, Jet, Ridgid,
and Craftsman.

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#2 posted 09-25-2012 01:16 AM

Most new “hybrid” style contractor saws now have a belt drive induction motor inside…..the Ridgid R4512, Cman 21833, Grizzly G0661, G0713, Jet Proshop, new PM64B, Porter Cable PCB270TS, Steel City 35990, Menards Master Force, Dayton 4KXD1, etc. All the new hybrids do too….Cman 22116, Grizzly G0715P, GI 50-200R, 50-220R, 50-240GT, Steel City 35926, 35950, Laguna Fusion, Shop Fox 1824 etc..

Older models (no riving knife) – Cman 22104, 22114, 22124, Delta 36-755, 36, 714, 36-715, 36-717, Jet Homeshop, Jet Proshop, Jet Supersaw, DeWalt DW746, GI 50-220, Woodtek, Grizzly G0478, Steel City 35601, 35605, 35610, Ridgid R4511 (had a riving knife)...there are probably others.

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#3 posted 09-25-2012 02:07 AM

Thanks very much, guys!

-- Ed

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#4 posted 09-25-2012 02:12 AM

If it helps- my Delta has the motor mounted on a subframe, held in place with spring loaded pins. Very simple to lift the motor a bit, slip the belt off, and squeeze the pins, and you have the motor in hand. Takes up way less room that way, as you noted, that motor hangs off the back a fair bit. But when I have to pull my car in the garage (well, it COULD happen-) I can cram everything over to one side, thanks to that removable motor.

-- Dan V. in Indy

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#5 posted 09-25-2012 02:27 AM

Are you saying you did a modification on your Delta? Or is that the factory design? If it is a mod, do you have a picture of what you have?

Ed

-- Ed

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#6 posted 09-25-2012 02:32 AM

Contractors saws have the motor out th eback so they can be easily removed and the saw can be loaded to move to the next job. Contractors would do this by themselves and needed to lighten the saws.

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#7 posted 09-25-2012 02:38 AM

Grandpa,
So your Delta was factory designed with the motor below? What model do you have?

-- Ed

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#8 posted 09-25-2012 02:55 AM

I don’t own a Delta but have used them. Can’t tell you a model number. I just know they are designed to easily remove the motor. Most contractors turn the saw upside down and put it in a pickup or trailer that way. They put a twist lock plug on the power cord so they can separate it from the saw. Motor hangs out the back with a single V-belt.

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#9 posted 09-26-2012 02:50 AM

I don’t know where you’re located as your home page is blank , but here is a “Junior” Unisaw listed in the WMass Craigslist , that might fit your needs at a good price : )
http://westernmass.craigslist.org/tls/3296573877.html



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#10 posted 09-26-2012 06:06 PM

Dusty,
That is a beautiful saw that would work perfectly for me. Just the right size with the features I need. Too bad I am in Texas. (I updated my profile to indicate this. Thanks for the tip.) I often run thin kerf smaller blades anyway since I don’t need the full 10” capacity. Wow, I wish it was near me.

I never see items this nice down in the Houston area. It seems liike there may be more vintage machines in the north east. ???

-- Ed

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#11 posted 09-27-2012 12:24 AM

The same guy has several vintage pieces listed…...they do come up on a regular basis around here it seems : )

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